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Post by Andrew Pixley on May 3, 2005 5:05:33 GMT
Sorry - I've just never seen that side to Mr Bignall. I've no idea what he's like IRL but online he always comes across as quite polite until lambasted by someone who is talking utter nonsense. I'm fortunate enough to have worked with Richard for some years now and so do know him in real life - spoke to him again just the other day which was a sheer delight. When you meet him, he's one of those brilliantly enthusiastic people who is happy to pour time and effort into a worthy cause and has been unceasingly helpful with all my projects for the last decade or so; it's also a pleasure to contribute to his wonderful research 'zine "Nothing At The End of the Lane" (which I can't recommend highly enough ...). In fact Richard's enthusiasm and energy reminds me strongly of Ian Levine himself. You only have to spend a few minutes with Ian and he is so bursting with love and respect for this programme it's incredible. He's also done so much over the years to help recover material that we all owe him a great deal of respect - and I know from our conversations over the years that Richard and I both admire Ian's work in this area. While I've not worked as closely with Ian over the years (indeed, he has been highly critical of my writing at times), I think a great deal of Ian and have always been very grateful for the help which he has given me; in particular I was keen that Ian should be able to dicuss his saving of the first Dalek serial on "Doctor Who Night" in 1999. The interview was recorded but unfortunately dropped because of decisions at a higher level ... but I hope that it may be seen one day in some other form. I'm certainly *very* keen to see more episodes turn up by any means possible - but I have to admit that I wouldn't have a clue as to the most effective approach. Personally, whenever I get a lead or a clue as to possible material I always contact the Restoration Team immediately. They're a brilliant set of guys who *always* offer good advice and whom I trust immensely to make all the right moves. So, I leave it with them ... But whenever something comes back, by whatever route, it's great isn't it?  All the best Andrew |
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Post by Gary on May 3, 2005 8:09:26 GMT
Yes its great when any episodes turn up, by what ever route. And I am certain more are to be found. It is always the case that when ever someone says there is nothing more out there then an episode or footage surfaces to confound the sceptics. I agree with the person who said that a kind of official deputising from the BBC would help anyone who gets on board Ian's scheme. Whether that will happen is another matter though. More power to the episode hunters and the ones who never give up. It is these people we have to be grateful to.
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Post by Stuart Douglas on May 3, 2005 11:00:51 GMT
Now I've no wish to get involved in another argument at the level of Mr Neve, but I can't let this nonsense pass without suggesting, very politely, that (a) the most obvious reason for removing a missing episodes style post from the Restoration Team forum is because it's Off Topic there, it being a technical DVD forum, that The Rt Forum says "This forum is for the discussion of technical issues related to Doctor Who, film and video restoration, and missing episodes." I take that to mean discussing missing episodes is fair game. I'm sure they had a reason for removing the post but I don't think being OT was it So it does - never noticed that before. I don't know if a general plea to start contacting foreign TV stations would count as a technical discussion of missing episodes, but I take your point. Stuart |
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Post by Darren Menzie on May 3, 2005 21:00:43 GMT
reading it again I think that it can be misleading. I read it as saying it is okay to talk about a)technical issues b)restoration c missing episodes not technical issues about a)Doctor Who b)restoration c)missing episodes  |
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Post by Nigel Bland on May 4, 2005 11:52:24 GMT
I was keen that Ian should be able to dicuss his saving of the first Dalek serial on "Doctor Who Night" in 1999. The interview was recorded but unfortunately dropped because of decisions at a higher level ... but I hope that it may be seen one day in some other form. Andrew Could this be included on the moted Beginnings DVD box? |
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Post by Ash Stewart on May 4, 2005 12:11:11 GMT
The guidelines page is less ambiguous:
"The Restoration Team Forum is specifically intended for discussion of the areas of interest covered by the articles on the main website. These include:-
* Film and videotape restoration techniques
* The missing episodes
* Technical aspects of television production
* Audio and video technology "
(However, posting threads about long-debunked rumours is not likely to go down too well...)
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Post by ethantyler on May 4, 2005 23:25:00 GMT
It's good to see Ian Levine motivated again. Naturally, it would be great to find anything (not just Doctor Who) even if it is just unedited copies of The War Machines or The Time Meddler. A copy of The Invasion 6 would be great if only to put rest to the debate whether it's edited.
I honestly believe that at least some missing material does still reside in overseas archives and not through I'm deluding myself because I want it to exist, but because I honestly believe it. I think there are more chances of non-Doctor Who material existing though as the search for missing Doctor Who episodes has been very thorough over the years.
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Post by Stuart Douglas on May 5, 2005 9:02:06 GMT
Could this be included on the moted Beginnings DVD box? All but confirmed now, I believe, by a BBC chap in a recent DVD magazine interview. Stuart |
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Post by Anthony on May 5, 2005 14:43:53 GMT
From what I've heard from people Richard Bignall does seem to be quote "a sheer delight" but he does come across as the angriest fan on the planet, why? people have been attacked by him even though they have said nothing critical of him or the series. He does have great experience and enthusiasm and his apparent attitude puts many people off which is rather pointless. It would be nice to feel that we could make a point or put a question silly or not without a 1/2 page breakdown explaining in minute detail why we are a bunch of ignorant fools. Richard We would rather have the benefit of your help and experience rather than a headmasters lecture.. please  |
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Post by Stuart Douglas on May 5, 2005 15:56:32 GMT
From what I've heard from people Richard Bignall does seem to be quote "a sheer delight" but he does come across as the angriest fan on the planet, why? people have been attacked by him even though they have said nothing critical of him or the series. He does have great experience and enthusiasm and his apparent attitude puts many people off which is rather pointless. It would be nice to feel that we could make a point or put a question silly or not without a 1/2 page breakdown explaining in minute detail why we are a bunch of ignorant fools. Richard We would rather have the benefit of your help and experience rather than a headmasters lecture.. please Nope - had a quick look through the archives and I can't see anywhere this has happened. A little short with certain of the less thoughtful members of this community, but nothing compared to the strip Louis Barfe tore off a poster a while back But hey - this thread isn't actually meant o be a charcter breakdown of someone only Andrew Pixley has actually met ) Stuart |
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Post by Andrew Pixley on May 5, 2005 17:20:07 GMT
From what I've heard from people Richard Bignall does seem to be quote "a sheer delight" but he does come across as the angriest fan on the planet, why? people have been attacked by him even though they have said nothing critical of him or the series. He does have great experience and enthusiasm and his apparent attitude puts many people off which is rather pointless. It would be nice to feel that we could make a point or put a question silly or not without a 1/2 page breakdown explaining in minute detail why we are a bunch of ignorant fools. Richard We would rather have the benefit of your help and experience rather than a headmasters lecture.. please The internet is a very tricky thing, and it can distort what people are really like at times, giving a false impression. Several people have commented to me that I seem to be a nice fella ... which indicates how little they probably know about me!  I know that Richard likes to deliver crisp and clear-cut message which he hopes aren't open to misinterpretation .... hence he cuts down on all the waffle which I tend to clog up my postings with (in the same way that Frankie Howerd needed his script writers to put in all the "oooohhh"s and "aaaahhhhh"s and "No missus"s, I have the dreadul need to do the same with my postings, just like this bracketed item that you're reading now which is, of course, totally irrelevent). He's also very keen not to see the propagation of old myths from the 1980s which we now know to be wrong (and which *still* surface on the net from time to time ... only the other day I was having to explain to somebody again that the shot of Troughton on the Time Lord screen in "The Three Doctors" Episode One wasn't from "The Macra Terror" at all ...). And I know that he says things with the best intentions. He's a nice fella. If he wasn't, I wouldn't work with him. But it strikes me that there's a whole heap o' nice people on this forum. All keen. All enthusiastic. And some who are relatively new to this who are keen to earn as opposed to crusty old folk like myself who have long since lost their marbles (which I *think* are under the sideboard somewhere ...). When I started off in all this, various people read the riot act to me over various things. And it hurt at the time. But it made me learn. And I'm so glad that I did! All the best Andrew |
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Post by Andrew Pixley on May 5, 2005 19:50:41 GMT
Excuse the tatty typing of arthritic fingers above: "keen to learn" not "keen to earn". Although earning ain't a bad idea ...! |
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Post by Justine on May 6, 2005 21:13:54 GMT
Thing is Andrew, You are cool  And Richard Bignelly is NOT! |
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Post by Andrew Pixley on May 7, 2005 16:20:51 GMT
Thing is Andrew, You are cool Thanks ... but if that's true it'll only be because I have the window open! Ohhhh .... he's a lovely fella! All the best Andrew |
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Post by LanceM on May 7, 2005 18:17:08 GMT
From the times that I have engaged here on discussions with Mr.Bignell he seems to be a very knowledgable, and kind person. I do not believe he deserves the bad rap that people have been giving him of late. Look at all the work he has done for us, in the world of who for all us fans, you cant just dismiss all of that hard work and dedication. I would of liked to talk in person with Mr.Bignell. Could he be going to that next big outpost gallifrey convention next year?
Thanks,Lance.
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