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Post by Stephen Neve on May 1, 2005 11:37:24 GMT
Cant this bickering stop? Start acting like adults & not 5 year old kids please!!!! Maybe the thread was deleted as it might have encouraged all & sundry to bombard these TV stations with countless requests. Its possible that the mods &/or Ian Levine decided to handpick some people to do the requests, hopefully increasing the chances of a discovery. Your right Robbo, I will get back to talking about the contents of the thread. Seems like a good idea from Ian, I haden't realised that so many stations had not been approached.
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Post by Richard Bignell on May 1, 2005 13:14:51 GMT
I haden't realised that so many stations had not been approached. They have been - and more than once. The fact that Ian didn't get in touch with them 20 years ago doesn't mean that they haven't been contacted since then. Richard
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Post by Richard Bignell on May 1, 2005 13:27:16 GMT
Anybody who dares criticise is silly, jumping to conclusions and don't know what they are talking about. But that's exactly what you *are* doing, Steven!! Criticism is fine, provided you have some reasonable basis for it. In this situation though, you *are* jumping to conclusions because you *don't* know why the post was removed. Likewise you clearly don't know what you're talking about in this case otherwise you wouldn't be making such silly accusations about the actions of the RT moderators when you have no idea as to *why* those actions were taken. You're taking one tiny event and inventing a whole scenario around it and treating it as fact, simply because that's how you want things to be, which is very much what you've done in the past. I'm not looking to have another argument with you, Steven. I just wish you'd think a bit more about what you're posting before you actually post it. This my last posting on this point as I've no doubt people are getting very bored with it all. I know I am. Richard
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Post by B Thomas on May 1, 2005 14:29:24 GMT
This my last posting on this point as I've no doubt people are getting very bored with it all. I know I am. Richard Well let's hope this is the last we’ve seen of this bickering. From what I've seen in this and other boards in the past, the two of you are as bad as each other - constantly sniping and baiting each other at every opportunity. Kiss and make up, ladies. Let's put an end to this pettiness and move on - life's too short.
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Post by Justine on May 1, 2005 17:36:52 GMT
He is right though isn't he??!!
Richard Bignal's comments on this and other forums always appear arrogant, smug and pompous and I'm sure that I'm not the only person that thinks that. Infact I know for sure I'm not!
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Post by Richard Bignell on May 1, 2005 18:57:15 GMT
If you're going to be rude about me, then try at least to get my name right! ;D
Richard
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Post by Guest on May 1, 2005 19:54:31 GMT
Any chance of some on the topic replies?
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Post by Stuart Douglas on May 1, 2005 20:53:19 GMT
I get sick to the back teeth of forums removing perfectly good points just for the sake of it. Ian is trying to suggest something positive and he's slapped down. Steve and the mods on that forum come across as arrogant and thus I shall avoid going to that forum when possible. Its good for the latest on DVD releases, but thats about it. I suggest others avoid it. It seems people associsated with this show are huddled all together in their own elite little group and don't give a damn about anything else with there heads up each others bottoms. I apologise for the rant Mark B but this needed to be said. Now I've no wish to get involved in another argument at the level of Mr Neve, but I can't let this nonsense pass without suggesting, very politely, that (a) the most obvious reason for removing a missing episodes style post from the Restoration Team forum is because it's Off Topic there, it being a technical DVD forum, that (b) whatever reason Steve Roberts etc have for removing the post is none of anyone here's business and (c) Ian L and the RT team are good mates (he described the RT forum as the only place he would ever consider posting, a while back) so presumably they've sorted it out between themselves. As for the idea itself, I have to say I remember the exact same thing being suggested either here or on the RT site only a couple of months ago. I suspected then that pretty mich everywhere would have been asked by now, and I've seen no reason to suspect otherwise since then. Stuart (showing enormous maturity I thought in not ridiculing out some of the sillier posts and comments in this thread
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Post by Stuart Douglas on May 1, 2005 20:53:56 GMT
He is right though isn't he??!! Richard Bignal's comments on this and other forums always appear arrogant, smug and pompous and I'm sure that I'm not the only person that thinks that. Infact I know for sure I'm not! And yet he tends to be right - funny that... Stuart
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Post by Laurence Piper on May 1, 2005 23:59:48 GMT
[quote author=Guest-Stephen Neve Ian Levine The Future of Missing Episodes Sat Apr 30 2005 12:40:41 081.133.246.095
The list is staggering. So many obscure countries. Imagine if one of them had fifty or sixty prints. it HAS to be worth the effort. Remember that far more Troughtons are missing than exist.
Please give me your thoughts. I'm fired up again and raring to go.
But if we consciously and actively go out there and turn over every stone, I am convinced we will yield results again. Some of these stones have never been turned over to this day. "
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Well, I think it's a really good idea! Someone is at least trying to find missing material rather than sit around saying "all that was out there to be found has now been found" - utter rubbish! At some point in the future - if there ARE TV archives holding this material (and I am sure there are) - this material will be thrown out if it isn't found in time. We need regular searches to be implemented until it produces results.
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Post by Wright Blan on May 2, 2005 2:41:47 GMT
Personally, Ian Levine' comments have echoed some things I've been thinking of lately. Obviously, making contacts is a good thing. What I think is needed, though Is some kind of official accrediation for episode hunters to expediate the search of the various archives in the world. The trade off for doing this? Helping the various tv outlets properly straighten out their archives. Sure the Beeb doesn't really need it, but how about those in Africa or Latin America? I'm sure they would love to be able to preserve their cultural history.
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Post by Stephen Neve on May 2, 2005 15:12:03 GMT
And yet he tends to be right - funny that... Stuart There are ways of being right without being smug, pompous and arrogant, Stuart.
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Post by Stuart Douglas on May 2, 2005 16:44:44 GMT
There are ways of being right without being smug, pompous and arrogant, Stuart. Sorry - I've just never seen that side to Mr Bignall. I've no idea what he's like IRL but online he always comes across as quite polite until lambasted by someone who is talking utter nonsense. But hey - he's presumably an adult and I did say I'd avoid your threads, so I'll leave you all to it. All the best with the Episode Hunting, Stuart
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Post by Stephen Neve on May 2, 2005 18:34:07 GMT
Well, I think it's a really good idea! Someone is at least trying to find missing material rather than sit around saying "all that was out there to be found has now been found" - utter rubbish! At some point in the future - if there ARE TV archives holding this material (and I am sure there are) - this material will be thrown out if it isn't found in time. We need regular searches to be implemented until it produces results. I just hope Ian puts his plan into action, who knows what can be achived. I doubt he will get much support from the so called experts as they swear there are no more in TV stations. I wish him the best of luck!
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Post by Darren Menzie on May 3, 2005 4:47:21 GMT
Now I've no wish to get involved in another argument at the level of Mr Neve, but I can't let this nonsense pass without suggesting, very politely, that (a) the most obvious reason for removing a missing episodes style post from the Restoration Team forum is because it's Off Topic there, it being a technical DVD forum, that The Rt Forum says "This forum is for the discussion of technical issues related to Doctor Who, film and video restoration, and missing episodes." I take that to mean discussing missing episodes is fair game. I'm sure they had a reason for removing the post but I don't think being OT was it
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