Probably not a mistake. Probably part of the great Adam Lee purge of 1993. You know, "Rentaghost" (recovered from UK Gold dubs), half of "Bod" (as packaged for transmission, not the stand-alone films), all of "Chock-A-Block" (but kept on VHS), and apparently all most of "Finders Keepers" with Richard Stilgoe... and the list still goes on!!!
Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Mar 29, 2011 7:42:13 GMT
In which case, when I get round to it, I'll scour youtube for some clips. One of the shows more likely to have been taped by people at home due to the nature of audience participation! Haven't found a complete episode guide yet, which is handy when it comes to guests.
Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Mar 29, 2011 12:20:38 GMT
I know we have a possible finds discussion on the General - but this is a currently existing thread....and currently active....and IF CPP is indeed missing 7 episodes, well, after LOTS of research (and capital letters....)(and brackets....), here is a clip of Big Country performing on 18/05/83:-
Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Mar 29, 2011 14:51:09 GMT
No it hasn't. That's a different Yazoo clip. I refer to their appearance on 25/05/83. The one on the compilation is from 24/05/82 (as I previously mentioned) NOT 25/05/83. They appeared on the show TWICE!
Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Aug 16, 2011 13:24:29 GMT
Ok, following consultation with the BBC:-
""(the) episodes were all wiped in the early 90s.
27/04/83 team leaders Debbie Appleby, Tony Blackburn; guests Darts, Tommy J, the Maisonettes 18/05/83 team leaders Debbie Appleby, Tony Blackburn; guests The Beat, David van Day, Big Country 25/05/83 team leaders Cheryl Baker, Bobby Gubby; guests Blue Zoo, Rocky Sharpe and the Replays, Yazoo
24/04/84 * 01/05/84 team leaders Bernadette Nolan, Gary Davies; guests Kajagoogoo, Nik Kershaw, Hazel Dean 15/05/84 team leaders Bernadette Nolan, Gary Davies; guests Musical Youth, Alvin Stardust, Bananarama 22/05/84 guests Nick Heyward, Peter Schilling, Eddy Grant *
*24/04/84 is not catalogued on (the BBC's) computer system. 22/05/84 there are no team leaders listed on the cataloguing. ""
So the Big Country and Bucks Fizz clips are finds.
Hi Guys, I must say, I keep seeing posts about material that was purged by Adam Lee at the BBC Archives from around late 1991 onwards. As most of you probably know by now, I was Steve Bryant's (and then Adam Lee's) Assistant in the Archive department from 1986-Feb 1991. I think it's a disgrace so much was wiped after I left to Join Enterprises. I must say Steve Bryant was brilliant at the Job of Archiving and I like to think I helped to that end. However, Adam Lee was not of the same breed. What is not generally known is that when Steve got the Job at the NFA as Keeper of Television (probably the ideal job for him), only 1 person at the Film Library applied to fill his post, a chappie called Bob White (sadly long deceased), however the 'powers that be' at the library did not want him doing the job and as far as I understood at the time, a call went out for ANYONE to apply for the job and the afternoon of the last day of applications, Adam Lee was pursuaded to apply. Well suprise suprise he landed the job! The rest as they say is history..... I would rather not go into more detail here, but lest say he wasn't the ideal candidate for the job, but he wasn't Bob White. Bob White had apparently been at the Film Library from the time it was at Ealing (almost as long as Anne Hanford), but he wasn't a qualified Librarian. Adam Was.
As those of you who have read the WIPED book, I carried on assisting finds, with regard to TOMB and Death to The Daleks:1 . It seems while I was helping even while at Ents, Adam at the library started wiping. Perhaps I moved jobs at the wrong time.
Of Course Adam has the sole distinction of being the only Archive selector to actually mark original archive prints (should you really damage the only survivng prints?). The prints of the Ice Warriors were marked (discreetly) as were Ian Levine's duplicate prints, in an effort to acertain where bootleg copies were being sourced from! As Michael Caine would say....not a lot of people know that!
Ah well, all that was in the dim and distant past, but I thought you might all find it of interest. Davidx
I will check with the Beeb to see if these are missing, as per the lostshows database.
Are you sure the Bucks Fizz clip is from 25/05/83, Ray?
They aren't listed as guesting on that show. They did appear a couple of weeks later on 08/06/83 which was the same week that "When We Were Young" was released so I'm guessing the YouTube clip is from that show (which still exists in the BBC archive).