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Post by John Wall on Jan 22, 2024 12:58:24 GMT
Where and when was the cutting copy of Episode 1 found. I nearly tripped over when I initially thought there were 2 copies of the episode until I realised it only contains the film sequences only which is quite lengthy seens nearly the whole episode is filmed. (1000 vs 700 ft). When will the whole cutting copy/raw film sequences be released in full publicly? It’s a b&w print - presumably from a colour negative - of the film sequences, including some that didn’t make it into the broadcast version. I doubt they’ll put it on the BluRay as it’s only geeks like us who’d be interested! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2024 16:54:48 GMT
When will the whole cutting copy/raw film sequences be released in full publicly? It’s a b&w print - presumably from a colour negative - of the film sequences, including some that didn’t make it into the broadcast version. I doubt they’ll put it on the BluRay as it’s only geeks like us who’d be interested! Yeah, the only unused sequence they showed as an extra on the DVD was the milkman robber scene. It would be nice if they show the whole b&w film sequences. I'm sure the Doctor Who Restoration Team, especially Paul, still has the full digital scan of the film sequences, but can't share it legally due to NDA's with the BBC. Same goes for the Betamax scans and film sequences of the other Third Doctor stories. |
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Post by michaelnorris on Jan 22, 2024 21:46:26 GMT
It came out on VHS and on DVD... but nah they'll just exclude it from the season 11 box set... In all seriousness they will certainly properly colorize it when it comes time. They have a whole team of people that have colorized or are colorizing at least 2 black and white stories now, with at least the first having been broadcast on BBC4. I'm sure IOTD1 is a given at thus point. This is probably the final classic DW release and, imho, they’ll be looking to get it absolutely right 👍 I doubt it, I actually think season 11 will be in the next 3-5 releases of the collection. I am fairly certain that season 3 will be the last classic who blu ray release excluding animations (barring a miraculous missing episode recovery). |
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Post by John Wall on Jan 22, 2024 22:29:59 GMT
This is probably the final classic DW release and, imho, they’ll be looking to get it absolutely right 👍 I doubt it, I actually think season 11 will be in the next 3-5 releases of the collection. I am fairly certain that season 3 will be the last classic who blu ray release excluding animations (barring a miraculous missing episode recovery). What I meant was that we’ve had VHS, DVD and now BluRay. The way things are going it seems unlikely there’ll be another physical format release - unless it’s on vinyl! |
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Post by barneyhall on Jan 23, 2024 1:26:47 GMT
This is probably the final classic DW release and, imho, they’ll be looking to get it absolutely right 👍 I doubt it, I actually think season 11 will be in the next 3-5 releases of the collection. I am fairly certain that season 3 will be the last classic who blu ray release excluding animations (barring a miraculous missing episode recovery). I think season 3 will be second to last, because I believe they will bookend it with Tom's best 2 seasons we started with 12 and will end with 13. Very reminiscent of the dvd range ending with zygons. I also agree season 11 will be fairly soon, in fact I think we will get it before season 7.it was never in any doubt we would get IOTD on blu ray at some point as part of the collection....this whole thread was just another lazy excuse to list a bunch of information already known, copy and pasted from elsewhere and to drive some traffic as it has been quiet here of late....because there's been nothing to discuss. Just calling the spade a spade |
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Post by Robbie Moubert on Jan 23, 2024 6:06:43 GMT
I'm sure the Doctor Who Restoration Team, especially Paul, still has the full digital scan of the film sequences, but can't share it legally due to NDA's with the BBC. What does a Non-disclosure Agreement have to do with the distribution of copyrighted material? You do have a habit of throwing around terms you don't really understand. What the f**k is a "Betamax scan"?! |
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Post by brianfretwell on Jan 23, 2024 9:53:46 GMT
What the f**k is a "Betamax scan"?! Sounds like a picture of the label to me if it wa recorded on a Sony machine!  |
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Post by Richard Bignell on Jan 23, 2024 10:30:07 GMT
Yeah, the only unused sequence they showed as an extra on the DVD was the milkman robber scene. It would be nice if they show the whole b&w film sequences. Why do you think it would be interesting? It would be mute b/w copies of the sequences we already have in the episode. The BBC will hold the original 16mm print. It might or might not still have the transfer of it made 13 years ago. No one is under any NDAs. That just a very silly idea that's constantly perpetrated by ill-informed fans in posts like this one to try and provide reasons why various people don't do things that they as individuals think they should. And what's a "Betamax scan" supposed to be? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2024 14:53:55 GMT
Same goes for the Betamax scans... What the f**k is a "Betamax scan"?! The digital scans of the Betamax tapes recorded by Tom Lundie, a associate of Ian Levine. |
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Post by Robbie Moubert on Jan 23, 2024 15:28:45 GMT
The digital scans of the Betamax tapes recorded by Tom Lundie, a associate of Ian Levine. How do you scan a video tape? |
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Post by John Wall on Jan 23, 2024 20:03:46 GMT
The digital scans of the Betamax tapes recorded by Tom Lundie, an associate of Ian Levine. How do you scan a video tape? You don’t, but you can convert it electronically. File it with “NTSC print”! |
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Post by John Wall on Jan 23, 2024 20:08:39 GMT
The b&w print is of interest - and not just for the omitted scene.
The original colour film would have been transferred onto 2” VT for broadcast and then telerecorded onto 16mm b&w to give us the telerecording we have. The b&w print should have a larger frame area and may well be sharper, not having gone through several stages to result in a telerecording.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2024 20:30:01 GMT
The b&w print is of interest - and not just for the omitted scene. The original colour film would have been transferred onto 2” VT for broadcast and then telerecorded onto 16mm b&w to give us the telerecording we have. The b&w print should have a larger frame area and may well be sharper, not having gone through several stages to result in a telerecording. Exactly. Also, since it does contain a larger area and cleaner image, it would be suitable to transfer the scenes to the restored footage when it's fully restored. Plus, if the B&W film sequence print has the Chroma dots, we can use the color recovery method on it while the rest of the episodes gets manually colorized. |
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Post by John Wall on Jan 23, 2024 22:23:59 GMT
The b&w print is of interest - and not just for the omitted scene. The original colour film would have been transferred onto 2” VT for broadcast and then telerecorded onto 16mm b&w to give us the telerecording we have. The b&w print should have a larger frame area and may well be sharper, not having gone through several stages to result in a telerecording. Exactly. Also, since it does contain a larger area and cleaner image, it would be suitable to transfer the scenes to the restored footage when it's fully restored. Plus, if the B&W film sequence print has the Chroma dots, we can use the color recovery method on it while the rest of the episodes gets manually colorized. It’s a b&w print from the original colour negative - the chances of chroma dots are, on a scale of one to ten, minus infinity. |
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Post by Rob Moss on Jan 24, 2024 8:55:42 GMT
When will the whole cutting copy/raw film sequences be released in full publicly? Given that this information hasn’t yet been announced or possibly even decided, and the only people who would know are either psychic or not allowed to say, the answer is “don’t know, you’ll have to wait and see”. As a rule, that’s the answer to any “when will X happen” question that hasn’t been announced, it’s pointless to ask. |
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