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Post by John Wall on Jan 9, 2023 12:32:09 GMT
I don't mind going for the lesser profile stories first besides its too easy to be sucked into doing the big sellers first cos ultimately you gonna have to get to those lesser stories sometime. OK, animate a story that few are interested in and it may not recoup its costs. End of animations. I’m afraid I can’t ever see all the missing stories being animated without a lottery win or benefactor with deep pockets. That’s why Crusades wasn’t completed with animation, the projected return was too low. A Cybermen story is a different matter.
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Post by John Wall on Jan 9, 2023 12:33:24 GMT
I'd happily buy a release where they only animated what was missing. <snip> Me, too. Very happily. That was the original model for animations but the later model was that the customer wanted an all-animated show.
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Post by Richard Bignell on Jan 9, 2023 13:09:50 GMT
That was the original model for animations but the later model was that the customer wanted an all-animated show. The "customer" in this case being BBC America - not the end consumer. The original model was to fill the gaps only for DVD release. When BBC America started to provide the majority of the funding, they wanted something that was complete, in its own right, for broadcast. For that reason, they weren't interested in a piebald production of part live-action and part-animation. That wasn't going to work for their needs.
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Post by Natalie Sinead on Jan 10, 2023 8:54:40 GMT
B&W is the kiss of death to an old program today. If you want the Hartnell-Troughtons to keep viable audiences and also be transmitted in an important timeslot on free to air BBC, leaving them as they are is not an option.
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Post by John Wall on Jan 10, 2023 10:04:22 GMT
B&W is the kiss of death to an old program today. If you want the Hartnell-Troughtons to keep viable audiences and also be transmitted in an important timeslot on free to air BBC, leaving them as they are is not an option. Perhaps colourisation might become cost effective?
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Post by Rob Moore on Jan 10, 2023 12:55:15 GMT
There are some orphaned episodes in collectors hands that PV & PH are aware of, so maybe selected stores where there is no evidence of the original prints existing, as well trying to complete a season for box set release.
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Post by George D on Jan 10, 2023 16:20:54 GMT
I recall people in the past saying they had missing episodes to trade when they had nothing.
I hope there are collectors with them but unless ive seen them i take it as a possibility.
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Post by Rob Moore on Jan 10, 2023 19:07:10 GMT
I recall people in the past saying they had missing episodes to trade when they had nothing. I hope there are collectors with them but unless ive seen them i take it as a possibility. Paul V and Phil M are on record as saying they are aware of specific episodes in private hands.
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Post by John Wall on Jan 10, 2023 19:19:48 GMT
All “we” know for certain is that WoF3 was spotted about a decade ago.
Yes, there have been statements about MEs in private hands but we don’t know whether these are just claims or whether the likes of PM or PV have been able to absolutely verify what they are - there have been a lot of rumours and hoaxes over the years.
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Post by RWels on Jan 10, 2023 19:29:53 GMT
All “we” know for certain is that WoF3 was spotted about a decade ago. Yes, there have been statements about MEs in private hands but we don’t know whether these are just claims or whether the likes of PM or PV have been able to absolutely verify what they are - there have been a lot of rumours and hoaxes over the years. The claim was by PV actually. Presumably not by some bloke he met down the pub.
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Post by John Wall on Jan 10, 2023 20:54:06 GMT
All “we” know for certain is that WoF3 was spotted about a decade ago. Yes, there have been statements about MEs in private hands but we don’t know whether these are just claims or whether the likes of PM or PV have been able to absolutely verify what they are - there have been a lot of rumours and hoaxes over the years. The claim was by PV actually. Presumably not by some bloke he met down the pub. What I was trying, and possibly failed, to say is that someone could claim to have something but it hasn’t subsequently been verified.
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Post by George D on Jan 10, 2023 22:53:35 GMT
Web 3 was spotted in Nigeria. Im unaware of any documented sighting since then
I'm unsure if pv and pm said they were told there were episodes in private collectors hands or actually saw them.
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Post by RWels on Jan 10, 2023 23:03:14 GMT
The claim was by PV actually. Presumably not by some bloke he met down the pub. What I was trying, and possibly failed, to say is that someone could claim to have something but it hasn’t subsequently been verified. Yeah, in itself that's quite true. But I'm not sure that PV or PM or most other insiders aren't immunised by experience to that. We can safely assume they wouldn't fall for that. (Hence the bloke down the pub bit.) Unintentional mistakes could still be possible of course.
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Post by Natalie Sinead on Jan 11, 2023 4:16:16 GMT
I think Paul V is rather more credible than say, some teenager posting to RADW in the 1990s claiming that he had The Highlanders.
Also... it's only fans who think that if collectors having rare or missing material they will *of course* allow dubs to circulate or hand over what they have.
Remember the 1979 Monkhouse case? Ted Turner saying he'd have collectors holding missing MGM films *prosecuted for handling stolen goods*?
We lost a lot of things forever because of those two events *by themselves*
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Post by stephen macpherson on Jan 11, 2023 21:42:54 GMT
Let Us All revel in this wonderful news of the Smugglers and UWM! After all, it was not too long ago we thought we would no longer have anymore animations. We all LOVE 'Who', let Us cherish the opportunities presented to Us All to celebrate such a phenomenal show.
Kindest Regards Stephen
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