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Post by Greg H on Sept 27, 2006 11:22:20 GMT
Interesting! So the old Monkhouse rears his head again! I have heard his name in connection with a few things over the years ( all completely benign!)
It would indeed be interesting to see if there is anything else of interest in his collection, especially on the ends of the tapes! Didnt a 4 minute excerpt of a missing Hancock come back this way? Albeit in low quality (etc etc etc etc) but from an otherwise non extant program.
I actually didnt know about the til death do us part coming back in a domestic taped format either, I cant say its a show i care for much, but its great for the fans I guess!
Its also very interesting to hear about the odd bits of footage doing the rounds from thames, rediffusion etc! Again, not my particular areas per say, but still very interesting!
Perhaps we could post a link to this article when self proclaimed experts start a chorus of 'its impossible to recover ANYHTING from home made recordings', its a bit of a tedious cry and it would appear that there is evidence to the contrary here!
The hunt goes ever on!
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Post by LanceM on Sept 28, 2006 4:10:11 GMT
What bits of Associated Rediffusion, Thames, ect are doing the rounds ? I am currious.
Lance.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2006 17:35:57 GMT
Perhaps we could post a link to this article when self proclaimed experts start a chorus of 'its impossible to recover ANYHTING from home made recordings', its a bit of a tedious cry and it would appear that there is evidence to the contrary here! It IS definitely possible to recover material from old video formats as there are several fans out there whose main interest is in doing just that! It may not be brilliant quality but it's better than nothing. The main problem is that such material doesn't surface half as often as we'd like it to! Having said that though, some formats are more "recover friendly" than others. |
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Post by Bill on Sept 29, 2006 18:59:10 GMT
I would think that people here would want to locae the material in this collection of the late Mr. Monkhouse. So, what has been learned about his archival posessions. Who has this illedged collection of video recordings ? Anything from his early Associated Rediffusion series ? What pices of missing programs are doing the rounds ? I am keen to know. Possibly some Doctor Who or other BBC stuff ?
Bill.
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Post by Brian Fretwell on Sept 29, 2006 20:09:45 GMT
I believe the collection is with the NFT archive. I don't know how they are getting on with it, but think it was a big job and they said it would take a long time.
Perhaps there will be a chance to ask at this year's Missing Believed Wiped.
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Post by Greg H on Oct 3, 2006 8:05:15 GMT
I expect if there was any dr who someone would have blabbed about it by now! But fingers crossed anyway for some good recoveries  |
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Post by Notasinsaneasyou on Oct 3, 2006 10:46:05 GMT
Why would Bob Monkhouse have recorded Dr Who?
Get real - why does every posting here have to include references to Dr Who?
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Post by Greg H on Oct 3, 2006 11:35:56 GMT
I think Bill said 'possibly some dr who or other BBC stuff?' An I think I said words to the effect of probably not! As for why it would be impossible for Monkhouse to have recorded Dr Who..... erm, sorry, youve lost me there! Why wouldnt he have recorded Dr Who? Has anyone got any evidence that he disaproved of the show or something. I certainly havent heard anything either way, not that im expecting there to be any who in there in particular. And maybe people here mention Dr Who a bit because its a very popular show, might have something to do with that perhaps!! |
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Post by h hartley on Oct 3, 2006 11:37:41 GMT
gee gods! there is a DR Who forum !
involving everything DrWho
we dont need to hear about him here
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Post by LanceM on Oct 3, 2006 18:13:52 GMT
I have a actual prospect for a domestic Shibaden reel video recovery. I have a contact who lives In Australia, he has a large collection of domestically recorded Shibaden reels. He wants to transfer the material for his own library use, after which he has agreed to donate the origional reels to me. However he needs to locate a working Shibaden PAL VTR to playback the material, he has all other equiptment to accomplish the task. If anyone has a machine he could use, or help transfer, that would be a great help in developing this lead. However, it looks very promising as the units he used and recorded were from the 1960's and early 1970's, so a good prospect for some material there.
Thanks, Lance.
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Post by Peter Bradford on Oct 3, 2006 20:01:32 GMT
I'm not sure how practical it would be to send a machine to Australia ? - could he send the tapes to the UK? Does he know what machine the tapes were originally recorded on ? I'm not an expert on Shibaden formats but I wonder if various Shibaden machines might have slightly different recording formats and so a precise match may be required ?
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Post by Harold Sprott on Oct 3, 2006 20:46:27 GMT
There was only one Shibaden b/w recording format, which adhered technically to the EIAJ-2 format. In theory this should mean recordings would play on any EIAJ-2 format recorder. In practice, different mechanical and electronic designs meant that they will not play back on Sony machines (and Shibaden recorders will not play Sony recordings).
As Red16v says, it would be completely impractical to send a Shibaden recorder form the UK to Australia. They are difficult to find in good working condition and there'd be a real chance that a good recorder would arrive after the trip in a non-working state. The best bet would be to get the recordings copied professionally in Australia. As a last resort, if nowhere can be found to do it, there are places in the UK. Professional transfers are expensive though, due to the costs of maintaining equipment. You're looking at a 3 figure sum per tape, with no quality guarantee either.
I have 2 working machines and could help out at a push, but the way forward would be to try one tape as a tester.
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Post by LanceM on Oct 4, 2006 0:44:47 GMT
Harold, drop me a PM.
Lance.
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Post by Richard Martin on Oct 4, 2006 6:08:02 GMT
Lance, I am told that he Australian Centre for the Moving Image in Melbourne has a Shibaden on display as part of their "50 Years of Australian TV' exhibition. I don't know if its working but have sent them an email to enquire.
I work in the industry over here, so am happy to make reasonably official-sounding enquiries to various bodies, or do a bit of legwork if needed. I travel quite frequently between Sydney and Melbourne.
I also have the number for a guy in South Australia who apparently has a number of old-school video formats - although as he's a commercial concern I'd probably need more info before going to him for a quote.
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Post by Richard Martin on Oct 4, 2006 6:26:21 GMT
PS Would anyone learned be able to tell me if a machine described as "half-inch J format" would be compatible with Shibaden tapes?
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