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Post by Stephen Byers on Dec 14, 2021 20:21:34 GMT
There is a Penguin mobi file on a 't' site.
How to Be a Brit (omnibus of How to Be an Alien, How to Be Inimitable, and How to Be Decadent)
Retail Penguin omnibus edition. Classics. "Alien" was written 1946 and is *very* droll. The other books followed up Mikes' massive success.
George Mikes provides a complete guide to the British Way of Life.
Born in Hungary, he eventually spent more than 40 years in the field, and the fruits of his labor include insights on important topics including the weather, how to be rude, and how to panic quietly. How to Be a Brit contains Mikes's three major works: How to be an Alien, How to be Inimitable, and How to be Decadent. The advice includes such gems as how to plan a town ("Street names should be painted clearly and distinctly on large boards. Then hide these boards carefully"); queuing ("An Englishman, even if he is alone, forms an orderly queue of one"); and sex ("Continental people have sex lives: the English have hot water bottles").
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Post by Stephen Byers on Dec 14, 2021 20:32:56 GMT
Seems to be an amount of files at Archive.org ...
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Post by RWels on Dec 14, 2021 21:38:26 GMT
Isn't the head of Radio 4 / Extra a 'foreigner'? Can't expect any foreigners to appreciative the subtleties of Brit. comedy and humour. The problem is, Stephen, that it's not clear how subtle your post exactly is. |
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Post by darrenlee on Dec 31, 2021 23:45:40 GMT
ITEM #35
# Title of programme -
Dad's Army - 1974-12-24 - Present Arms : 1974 Christmas Special (60 min)
Situation Comedy, starring Arthur Lowe.
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007jqrv (Dead link)
# Date of Repeat broadcast -
2020-12-20
# Description of cut (with length, starting point) -
A joke at 33:19 lasting 16 seconds, during a scene at the local
Hippodrome theatre, resulted in the programme being banned.
The episode was broadcast, but was removed from BBC iPlayer after a
few days. The station was marked "off air" for that hour, to prevent
playing or accessing the episode.
# Reason for banning -
Contains one joke about a chink in the blackout. A double-entendre
originally: perhaps a reference to showing a chink of light in the
blackout, or perhaps a reference to a Chinaman.
Last uncut repeat: 2020-12-20 (Recordings of the live broadcast,
or live stream, only)
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An update on this one. The episode was aired on Christmas Eve with the 'offensive' joke cut out. We still hear Mainwaring and Wilson finding it unfunny. The link is no longer dead. The censored version can be heard there until its 30 days are up or another problem is spotted, whichever is sooner.
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Post by Natalie Sinead on Jan 2, 2022 13:39:16 GMT
I presume the OP doesn’t actually care that marginalised groups reps have said they don’t want harmful crap in old shows broadcast any more. It’s just as harmful as deliberately deadnaming Elliott Page as Ellen.
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Post by John Green on Jan 2, 2022 15:30:05 GMT
I presume the OP doesn’t actually care that marginalised groups reps have said they don’t want harmful crap in old shows broadcast any more. It’s just as harmful as deliberately deadnaming Elliott Page as Ellen. It's a point well worth pondering. Though I'm sometimes a little wary about how many community spokesmen (and how often it seems to be men) are self-appointed. I think it's fair to say, too, that there's not necessarily a complete overlap between various communities' views on the rights and respects due to women, darker or lighter skinned people, homosexuals, etc. and those of the more liberal elements in British society. Might some of the former be rather keen on there being greater ridicule and criticism of these demographics, or at the least less representation in the media, from the viewpoint of older patriarchal right-wing religious values? In that case, how much weight should be given to the 'reps' attitudes? |
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Post by RWels on Jan 2, 2022 16:46:32 GMT
I presume the OP doesn’t actually care that marginalised groups reps have said they don’t want harmful crap in old shows broadcast any more. It’s just as harmful as deliberately deadnaming Elliott Page as Ellen. From memory, isn't the OP reposting this, with permissiong, from some other place? I wonder what people in Hong Kong would say if they hear us complain about this "censorship" though! |
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Post by John Wall on Jan 2, 2022 18:02:31 GMT
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Post by garygraham on Jan 2, 2022 21:20:18 GMT
I presume the OP doesn’t actually care that marginalised groups reps have said they don’t want harmful crap in old shows broadcast any more. It’s just as harmful as deliberately deadnaming Elliott Page as Ellen. Broadly society should be run on the basis of what the majority want. Things shouldn't be imposed because a tiny number of people have decided that something is "harmful." That's about control more than anything else. The more fragile you become, the more you censor, the less you are able to cope when something happens. And we see this all over the place now. Personally I can tick a number of boxes on the intersectional hierarchy of victimhood. But most of the time I choose to laugh it off and move on. |
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Post by Richard Marple on Jan 2, 2022 21:32:47 GMT
So nothing to do with being brainwashed by generations of hack writers in the right wing press that "minority bashing" will suddenly turn things around for them with. We're now seeing why they're stuck at the bottom of society, too lazy & feckless to do the jobs people emigrate here to do. Remember the Right Wing only works for you if you've got at least a 6 figure bank balance, otherwise you're just voting fodder. |
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Post by RWels on Jan 2, 2022 21:44:04 GMT
The more fragile you become, the more you censor, the less you are able to cope when something happens. And we see this all over the place now. Like I said, I really wonder if people in Belarussia and Hong Kong don't have much more right to actually use the word "censor". |
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Post by garygraham on Jan 2, 2022 21:58:26 GMT
The more fragile you become, the more you censor, the less you are able to cope when something happens. And we see this all over the place now. Like I said, I really wonder if people in Belarussia and Hong Kong don't have much more right to actually use the word "censor". We don't lose the right to use a word because someone else is having a worse time. If it's so unimportant here and doesn't matter why do you keep replying about it? Surely it should be people "in Belarussia and Hong Kong" you should be concerned about? |
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Post by RWels on Jan 3, 2022 13:43:48 GMT
Like I said, I really wonder if people in Belarussia and Hong Kong don't have much more right to actually use the word "censor". We don't lose the right to use a word because someone else is having a worse time. If it's so unimportant here and doesn't matter why do you keep replying about it? Surely it should be people "in Belarussia and Hong Kong" you should be concerned about? Let me be more clear then what I'm trying to say: you're always using these exagerated terms and nazi/stalin analogies. It casts the whole question in such an epic struggle for freedom against the sinister forces inside the BBC. I find it all a bit ridiculous. Hyperboles help you blow off steam perhaps, but it does not do anything for a discussion or understanding what other people are trying to say or ask. In other words: Correctness, regardless whether too much or not, is not really the same as open repression, is it? There are no actual book burnings taking place. The "PC police" is a metaphor, it does not really exist. And this works the other way round just as well - open your ears because you'll love this: older series often aren't racist. Often they're more like prejudiced or biased. Tintin for example isn't racist in my view; I'd classify the earliest albums as extremely outdated, colonial, and patronising, but not in the same league as, say, the KKK. Also, I find it rather weak to just cry "censorship! what about our freedom!". While there may be genuine cases, that is the first thing that everyone always shouts who has ever been told to shut up with good reason too. True story. Just look at all the nutjobs kicked off social media for spreading misinformation. They will act all wronged when they have been "silenced" - the poor things(!)! |
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Post by John Green on Jan 3, 2022 16:29:11 GMT
We're now seeing why they're stuck at the bottom of society, too lazy & feckless to do the jobs... "The trouble is", said Alf, "your working-classes are too feckless to work. It's beneath them!! "Oh yeah?" said the Scous git, "What are you,then?". "Me? Me? I'm your middle-class! I'm not one of them!". Alf voted Conservative, of course. Over the last 50 years, I've seen (unintersectionaled) working-class men become the symbols of everything that's wrong with the country. What was a Conservative cry against the poor, has been taken up and expanded by the Left. (At a pinch, the Tories would talk about the 'salt of the earth' proles. Think Margot Ledbitter in The Good Life), there's little chance of the Left saying that nowadays about any non-intersectional British working people). |
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Post by Richard Marple on Jan 3, 2022 21:38:37 GMT
We don't lose the right to use a word because someone else is having a worse time. If it's so unimportant here and doesn't matter why do you keep replying about it? Surely it should be people "in Belarussia and Hong Kong" you should be concerned about? Let me be more clear then what I'm trying to say: you're always using these exagerated terms and nazi/stalin analogies. It casts the whole question in such an epic struggle for freedom against the sinister forces inside the BBC. I find it all a bit ridiculous. Hyperboles help you blow off steam perhaps, but it does not do anything for a discussion or understanding what other people are trying to say or ask. In other words: Correctness, regardless whether too much or not, is not really the same as open repression, is it? There are no actual book burnings taking place. The "PC police" is a metaphor, it does not really exist. And this works the other way round just as well - open your ears because you'll love this: older series often aren't racist. Often they're more like prejudiced or biased. Tintin for example isn't racist in my view; I'd classify the earliest albums as extremely outdated, colonial, and patronising, but not in the same league as, say, the KKK. Also, I find it rather weak to just cry "censorship! what about our freedom!". While there may be genuine cases, that is the first thing that everyone always shouts who has ever been told to shut up with good reason too. True story. Just look at all the nutjobs kicked off social media for spreading misinformation. They will act all wronged when they have been "silenced" - the poor things(!)! Herge was quick to express his true political feelings in Tintin once the series had found his feet & his right wing editor (who had a picture of Mussolini on his desk!) wasn't interfering. The Land Of The Soviets was out of print for years before Herge reluctantly had it published in book form, mostly to stem the number of bootlegs, I presume made by people who had collected the original newspaper printings. |
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