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Post by Luke Sherlaw on Apr 4, 2020 17:19:04 GMT
Phil Morris got interviewed and he's said he's aware of at least 6 missing episodes of DW in private hands. He also believes that there are more MEs in Australia (not as sure on this one, but he still mentioned it). www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGEFROSQeIM&feature=emb_titleTimestamps in the above video: 6 almost certain missing episodes: 3:14:49 - 3:15:06 Australia: 3:17:20 - 3:17:35 I've had a lot of funny responses when i've said before that I believe there to be 10-15 missing episodes at a minimum in private collections. I'm quite a pesimist but i've stuck to my guns on that and hopefully it's a correct notion. I'm glad something like that has been said to give us some hope in these worrying times. I'm not rumour-mongering, it's straight from the chief's mouth. Another excellent interview from Phil, he really is a genuine guy. Hopefully we have some gems among those 6 and they'll make their way back to us eventually
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Post by George D on Apr 4, 2020 17:28:19 GMT
I haven't found it in the video but assuming he said that I would take it with a grain of salt
For decades there have been people hoaxing that they have them and this could be no different
All this will do is get the PM gossip going and I'll believe it when there is evidence
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Post by Luke Sherlaw on Apr 4, 2020 17:40:06 GMT
I haven't found it in the video but assuming he said that I would take it with a grain of salt For decades there have been people hoaxing that they have them and this could be no different All this will do is get the PM gossip going and I'll believe it when there is evidence The timestamps for the sections i'm talking about it were provided in my post. You're very right, but in my eyes Phil is someone who wouldn't have said that unless he's very certain about their legitimacy. Watch the video, the way he says it gives me an inclination it's more than a hoax. I'm against rumours as much as the next guy but the only two people who'll get my ears pricked up with such claims are Phil and Paul Vanezis.
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Post by RWels on Apr 4, 2020 22:11:52 GMT
The difference with the hoax is that they want no attention, instead of all attention.
Even so, even though they may be heroes for saving them, at the same time, deep down it's still somewhat selfish of them to keep for themselves what was made for everyone.
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Post by Dan Kolb on Apr 4, 2020 22:38:55 GMT
I haven't found it in the video but assuming he said that I would take it with a grain of salt For decades there have been people hoaxing that they have them and this could be no different All this will do is get the PM gossip going and I'll believe it when there is evidence Try this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG1uryUKNhY at 21:21 Best regards -D
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Post by tom rogers on Apr 5, 2020 0:36:51 GMT
Thanks. That was a great watch. Mr. Morris sounded hopeful and that works for me. A nice surprise would be most welcome anytime.
Stay safe everyone.
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Post by Ken Jacowitz on Apr 5, 2020 1:34:54 GMT
Philip Morris has said he knows episode 3 of The Web of Fear exists in a private collection. The Web of Fear along with Enemy of the World were found complete by Mr. Morris in Jos, Nigeria. But after six months of negations for their return, only 9 lost episodes were returned. Mr. Morris surmises that a collector found out about the discoveries and bought episode three. What is significant about episode three it is the on-screen introduction of Colonel Alistair Lethbridge-Stewart as played by Nicholas Courtney. (I say on-screen because Colonel Alistair Lethbridge-Stewart met The Doctor off-screen in episode two. Off-screen because Troughton was on holiday that week). web.archive.org/web/20150928030710/http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2015/09/whatever-happened-to-web-of-fear-3.html
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Post by George D on Apr 5, 2020 2:50:15 GMT
If im understandong correctly, PM belief that it exists is by the use of the phrase missing episodes.
To me it could also have responding to the question about missing films. We are all entitled to our beliefs and I hope to be proven with its recovery
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Post by Luke Sherlaw on Apr 5, 2020 4:12:07 GMT
Philip Morris has said he knows episode 3 of The Web of Fear exists in a private collection. The Web of Fear along with Enemy of the World were found complete by Mr. Morris in Jos, Nigeria. But after six months of negations for their return, only 9 lost episodes were returned. Mr. Morris surmises that a collector found out about the discoveries and bought episode three. What is significant about episode three it is the on-screen introduction of Colonel Alistair Lethbridge-Stewart as played by Nicholas Courtney. (I say on-screen because Colonel Alistair Lethbridge-Stewart met The Doctor off-screen in episode two. Off-screen because Troughton was on holiday that week). web.archive.org/web/20150928030710/http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2015/09/whatever-happened-to-web-of-fear-3.htmlI think every single person on this forum, and indeed anyone interested in DW missing episodes, knows the ins and outs of this particular scenario, Ken! To me, this was collectors Phil personally knows of, so that figure of 6 may not even include Web 3. Even if it does, that's still 5 other episodes that he's 'aware' of per se. I guess we'll see. Now during the lockdown would be as good as time as ever for these collectors to relinquish any missing material they may have! We can hope.
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Post by Rich Cornock on Apr 5, 2020 6:05:18 GMT
Perhaps we should ask why Phil mentioned the missing episodes knowing that this would whip up the usual storm? I can't see the point in bringing it up if he were in any sort of negotiations to get them back.
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Post by Robert Mammone on Apr 5, 2020 10:29:11 GMT
I'd like to know what Paul Vanezis thinks of this particular revelation, given he spoke freely to Radio Free Skaro about knowing of two episodes being in the hands of a collector. Does he believe Morris's 6 include his 2, or are they in addition? What does Paul think about Morris speaking this freely about what he understands to be true?
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Apr 5, 2020 10:39:41 GMT
Perhaps we should ask why Phil mentioned the missing episodes knowing that this would whip up the usual storm? I can't see the point in bringing it up if he were in any sort of negotiations to get them back. To give us something hopeful to look forward to during this difficult time? It would be a nice gesture - even if he doesn't physically have the episodes, he thinks it prudent to tell us that they are definitely out there and who better for that to come ftom than the foremost authority on missing episodes himself-Philip Morris? I always thought that the last thing PM would do is to mark a public holiday with a recovery but he seems to have done the next best thing and I am very,very happy that he has done so.The number of missing Dr Who episodes is now potentially 87 and possibly even lower!
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Post by John Wall on Apr 5, 2020 12:30:43 GMT
This is interesting but there have been plenty of hoaxes.
The important question is has PM seen unambiguous evidence? Something like a still that doesn’t match an existing telesnap, for example.
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Apr 5, 2020 13:16:19 GMT
We can only assume, due to his experience that the 6 missing episodes are not a hoax.On a different note, his description of the loss of WOF 3 (in fact he mentions the loss of 2 episodes ) is still moving and it's removal cruel. He uses the word 'infiltration ' which is what he has been guarding against ever since.
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Post by scotttelfer on Apr 5, 2020 15:07:50 GMT
This is interesting but there have been plenty of hoaxes. The important question is has PM seen unambiguous evidence? Something like a still that doesn’t match an existing telesnap, for example. Only if he wants to give the Restoration Team heart attacks. My understanding is that the films are left undisturbed to try and prevent any damage. The film cans will be examined, but that's as far as they'll go until the films are "returned". Obviously doesn't confirm anything, could still be a fake or even a real film can with mismatching contents but it's better to take their word for it and be disappointed down the line than risk an actual find in case it's a hoax.
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