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Post by Angel Amezquita on Aug 13, 2023 13:01:30 GMT
I believe that Episodes 1 and 4 of the upcoming Underwater Menace animation will still use Graham Strong's recordings for those episodes, but Episodes 2 and 3 will use the audio from the original prints in the BBC Archive. However, any areas of damage will likely use the Randolph Tapes to repair those areas, though recordings made by David Holman and Richard Landen may also be used for repair. Why do you believe that the Randolph tapes will be used to patch episodes 1 & 4 rather than Graham Strong's but not used for 2&3 ? They might include continuity announcement from the Randolph tapes as they did with Power special edition I didn't say that, I said that Graham Strong's recordings will still be used for episodes 1 and 4. However, since tape from the 1960s can have damage from age, as well as some minor issues from recording, any areas where there is damage to the tape or where it distorts a little can be digitally patched using other fan recordings. They have all fan audio recordings scanned by now. For example, David Holman's recordings of Marco Polo as well as episode 5 of The Reign of Terror have some damaged bits that were patched with corresponding parts from James Russell for both the telesnap reconstruction for Marco Polo and the animated version of the Reign of Terror. They have done that before with the telesnap reconstruction and the animations, ans they will do that again. |
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Post by sonnybh on Aug 13, 2023 13:16:01 GMT
Although I have absolutely no evidence whatsoever to substantiate it, I’m sure that Mark Ayres will have reviewed all the audios. Some of the reports on the restorations mention the soundtracks are sometimes a patchwork quilt of different recordings. |
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Post by John Wall on Aug 13, 2023 13:53:21 GMT
Although I have absolutely no evidence whatsoever to substantiate it, I’m sure that Mark Ayres will have reviewed all the audios. Some of the reports on the restorations mention the soundtracks are sometimes a patchwork quilt of different recordings. Yep, that’s Mark doing a great job for us 👍 |
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Post by sonnybh on Aug 13, 2023 20:25:21 GMT
Some of the reports on the restorations mention the soundtracks are sometimes a patchwork quilt of different recordings. Yep, that’s Mark doing a great job for us 👍 Yes it's impressive what the Restoration Team have managed to do. |
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Post by John Wall on Aug 13, 2023 21:10:24 GMT
Yep, that’s Mark doing a great job for us 👍 Yes it's impressive what the Restoration Team have managed to do. Splendid fellows, all of them👍 |
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Post by michaelnorris on Aug 14, 2023 5:48:33 GMT
Yep, that’s Mark doing a great job for us 👍 Yes it's impressive what the Restoration Team have managed to do. Restoration team have got to be some of the most talented people in the industry. I edit my own videos and it's a ton of work. I can't imagine having to comb through 60 year old media and try to make it all work together in a way that's suitable for release and sale. They always do a fantastic job, and I'm continually blown away by how good these old episodes look |
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Post by sonnybh on Aug 14, 2023 20:45:54 GMT
Yes it's impressive what the Restoration Team have managed to do. Restoration team have got to be some of the most talented people in the industry. I edit my own videos and it's a ton of work. I can't imagine having to comb through 60 year old media and try to make it all work together in a way that's suitable for release and sale. They always do a fantastic job, and I'm continually blown away by how good these old episodes look I've made a few montages of family photos set to music over the years which is hard work usually worth it in the end. |
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Post by Patrick Coles on Aug 14, 2023 21:24:17 GMT
There is at least one Radio episode of BBC's 'Steptoe and Son' that clearly has been 'patched together' from several different sources of recordings which each sound somewhat different but combine to restore a complete episode !
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Post by John Wall on Aug 14, 2023 22:56:48 GMT
There is at least one Radio episode of BBC's 'Steptoe and Son' that clearly has been 'patched together' from several different sources of recordings which each sound somewhat different but combine to restore a complete episode ! Might have been done a while ago, nowadays it might be possible to “smooth” it out. |
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Post by darrenlee on Aug 15, 2023 7:12:18 GMT
There is at least one Radio episode of BBC's 'Steptoe and Son' that clearly has been 'patched together' from several different sources of recordings which each sound somewhat different but combine to restore a complete episode ! Might have been done a while ago, nowadays it might be possible to “smooth” it out. Some episodes as broadcast by 4 Extra have snippets with much lower quality audio than in the main. They seem to be mostly the result of censorship for blasphemy (e.g. Harold saying 'Oh my Gawd' or the like) with the cuts re-instated from a much poorer source. I think I remember 'The Wooden Overcoats' is an affected episode. One would imagine it's an easier job for AI than conjuring up a missing Dr Who episode from almost thin air. |
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Post by John Wall on Aug 15, 2023 8:21:51 GMT
Might have been done a while ago, nowadays it might be possible to “smooth” it out. Some episodes as broadcast by 4 Extra have snippets with much lower quality audio than in the main. They seem to be mostly the result of censorship for blasphemy (e.g. Harold saying 'Oh my Gawd' or the like) with the cuts re-instated from a much poorer source. I think I remember 'The Wooden Overcoats' is an affected episode. One would imagine it's an easier job for AI than conjuring up a missing Dr Who episode from almost thin air. Perhaps Mark Ayres wasn’t involved? |
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Post by jcoleman on Aug 15, 2023 12:55:54 GMT
There is at least one Radio episode of BBC's 'Steptoe and Son' that clearly has been 'patched together' from several different sources of recordings which each sound somewhat different but combine to restore a complete episode ! Might have been done a while ago, nowadays it might be possible to “smooth” it out. I came across a couple of examples of AI being used to clean up audio on Twitter not so long back. One I seem to recall was called 'Podcast', which if I recall correctly is an audio cleanup AI from Adobe. There were a couple of Doctor Who examples too. I think one was of the Junkyard scene from An Unearthly Child and another noted that when 'technobabble' was involved, which the AI wasn't familiar with, it would substitute it for a word or words it knew. The results were interesting. I'd imagine they could be valuable new tools for experts like Mr Ayres. Unfortunately, Twitter (or X or whatever) seems all over the place these days so I can't find them to post here. You used to be able to just view tweets, but now it appears you have to have an account. Sometimes shared links work, sometimes not and sometimes when they do you can open a user's feed but only tweets from several years ago are shown. I have no interest in having a Twitter account, there were only ever a few tweets on subjects like this that I was ever interested in, so I've gone back to ignoring it. |
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