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Post by Hugh Pearson on Aug 5, 2019 16:12:27 GMT
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Post by peterconvery on Sept 28, 2022 9:23:37 GMT
Does anyone know where the DMP episode 1 starts from?
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Post by markperry on Oct 1, 2022 22:46:37 GMT
Nice discovery bit I'm not going to get wound up over it as the untouched tapes will never be shared or be available. To me its already been decided that the best place for them is in an archive where only the privileged or well-connected will have easy access to them.
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Post by Rob Moss on Oct 2, 2022 12:54:31 GMT
Nice discovery bit I'm not going to get wound up over it as the untouched tapes will never be shared or be available. To me its already been decided that the best place for them is in an archive where only the privileged or well-connected will have easy access to them. Except that for any project where they would add benefit, they will be freely available. You’ll always be able to access the best quality version of the episode, so why are you getting snarky about not having access to these particular recordings? Did you get this wound up by not being able to access the raw recordings made by all the other people who recorded DW off-air..? |
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Post by PAUL WOOD on Oct 2, 2022 13:52:09 GMT
I'm sure in the future when an appropriate project comes along that the Randolph Tapes will be utilised. In fact we've already heard a snippet of them on The Power Of The Daleks Special Edition recon.
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Post by markperry on Oct 2, 2022 21:52:09 GMT
Rob I was never around then so i'm not thar worried. Anyway as my first line suggestsed 'I'm over it'. So I like the others will just wait for their eventual release in whatever form.
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Oct 2, 2022 22:11:31 GMT
I'm sure in the future when an appropriate project comes along that the Randolph Tapes will be utilised. In fact we've already heard a snippet of them on The Power Of The Daleks Special Edition recon. Which part Paul? |
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Post by PAUL WOOD on Oct 3, 2022 16:07:13 GMT
I'm sure in the future when an appropriate project comes along that the Randolph Tapes will be utilised. In fact we've already heard a snippet of them on The Power Of The Daleks Special Edition recon. Which part Paul? Hi, Jasper. The end credits of Episodes 1,2 & 3 feature authentic continuity announcements that have never appeared on any release before. An extremely pleasant surprise that they were included. Apparently several other Randolph recordings feature voice-overs, 'Celestial Toymaker' being a particular case in point. |
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Oct 3, 2022 21:06:09 GMT
Hi, Jasper. The end credits of Episodes 1,2 & 3 feature authentic continuity announcements that have never appeared on any release before. An extremely pleasant surprise that they were included. Apparently several other Randolph recordings feature voice-overs, 'Celestial Toymaker' being a particular case in point. Thanks for the reply Paul.Can't wait now to play my POTD SE and listen to the 'as-live' voice overs from 1966/67! |
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Post by PAUL WOOD on Oct 4, 2022 20:01:29 GMT
Hi, Jasper. The end credits of Episodes 1,2 & 3 feature authentic continuity announcements that have never appeared on any release before. An extremely pleasant surprise that they were included. Apparently several other Randolph recordings feature voice-overs, 'Celestial Toymaker' being a particular case in point. Thanks for the reply Paul.Can't wait now to play my POTD SE and listen to the 'as-live' voice overs from 1966/67! They're a lovely little addition to the recon, Jasper. Brief yes, but they're the real deal. An amazing find! |
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Post by George D on Oct 8, 2022 1:04:06 GMT
Nice discovery bit I'm not going to get wound up over it as the untouched tapes will never be shared or be available. To me its already been decided that the best place for them is in an archive where only the privileged or well-connected will have easy access to them. Except that for any project where they would add benefit, they will be freely available. You’ll always be able to access the best quality version of the episode, so why are you getting snarky about not having access to these particular recordings? Did you get this wound up by not being able to access the raw recordings made by all the other people who recorded DW off-air..? To be perfectly frank, i really wanted to think the inner circle was actually growing a heart. Based on our pm, I think clarification is needed as to whose "projects" will have access freely... not "any". And yes, in the past the other versions were generously in circulation. Which makes me wonder why one would be so concerned here. When they can be a hero instead. |
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Post by anthonybartley on Oct 13, 2022 15:27:23 GMT
"In general, an author abandons her copyright by forming an intent to relinquish her rights and engaging in an overt act reflecting that intent. Abandoned works become part of the public domain, free from copyright and available for anyone to use." (according to the world's leading legal advice expert - Google) As far as I can tell, the BBC undoubtedly did perform an act reflecting that intent. What greater act can there be than destroying the very work itself and leaving nothing behind? They even have paperwork documenting all the junking that went on so there is a legal paper trail. Has anyone ever actually looked into this aspect of the BBC's serial junking days and where it fits in with current copyright laws? I can just imagine the headlines - "Free The Randolph Tapes!"  |
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Post by Ace St.John on Oct 13, 2022 22:52:01 GMT
In general the Randolph Tapes are no more superior than what we have . This is what I read recently quoted from Mark Ayres
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Post by PAUL WOOD on Oct 15, 2022 18:37:48 GMT
In general the Randolph Tapes are no more superior than what we have . This is what I read recently quoted from Mark Ayres I suspect that 'Feast Of Stephen' might be an improvement and I'm also wondering if 'The Celestial Toymaker' might be better too? We know for a fact that Graham Strong did not enjoy the latter and therefore erased his recordings of it. The BBC CD release is sourced from numerous recordings of variable quality, with Episode 3 arguably the poorest. Perhaps the Randolph recording is therefore more consistent overall? We certainly know that it has an authentic continuity announcement over the end credits - something not heard on any previous off-air versions down the years. |
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Post by Natalie Sinead on Oct 19, 2022 11:37:58 GMT
that's because most domestic tapers didn't wait for the full end credits. There are a lot of back-announcements on Hartnell and Troughton end titles that are lost to history.
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