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Post by Mark Vanderlinde-Abernathy on Oct 25, 2014 1:52:49 GMT
Curious to know what else was in the collection!  Great finds, I'm absolutely thrilled.  This is indeed a major one! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 18:44:41 GMT
I think that's a bit of myth - we've had several Rediffusion DVD releases and archive broadcasts over the years. I have always got the impression that the primary issue was a lack of interest from releasing companies. Not a myth at all. The few releases of Rediffusion material have all been NTSC / region 0, probably meaning that the rights situation is a bit different / more do-able for non-UK territories / UK-based companies. Of course, the interest to release might be stronger if more programmes in the Rediffusion archive existed complete - but that's another issue! |
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Post by Sue Butcher on Oct 25, 2014 23:35:54 GMT
Not all NTSC; 'At Last The 1948 Show' (the compilation) and 'Do Not Adjust Your Set' (what's left of the first series) were released as Region 4 in Australia by Roadshow Entertainment about three years ago.
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Post by RWels on Oct 25, 2014 23:55:10 GMT
Not all NTSC; 'At Last The 1948 Show' (the compilation) and 'Do Not Adjust Your Set' (what's left of the first series) were released as Region 4 in Australia by Roadshow Entertainment about three years ago. Could still be NTSC, though. It happens. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 9:48:38 GMT
Not all NTSC; 'At Last The 1948 Show' (the compilation) and 'Do Not Adjust Your Set' (what's left of the first series) were released as Region 4 in Australia by Roadshow Entertainment about three years ago. Yes, as R.Wels has already said, they could possibly still be NTSC (region 4), although I don't know this. I think the problem lies with releasing Rediffusion material specifically in the UK by UK companies. It doesn't seem to be the same rights situation elsewhere. |
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Post by Peter Stirling on Oct 26, 2014 10:24:05 GMT
I didn't think the regions were colour carrier specific? I thought it went along like this..
Region 0 = Universal
Region 1 = N.America and Japan
Region 2 = Europe
Region 4 = Australasia
But as I think Lawrence implies here?there is no reason why here the BFI (who are in league with the UK rights owners) could not at least put a compilation DVD together of Rediffusion material or indeed dust them down and make them available to UK broadcasters in a modern format.
Apparently the surviving eps of 'The Informer' remain as TR negatives - so 45 odd years on and they have done absolutely nothing with them since.
The problem is the longer they leave it, the market could be shrinking as many of us who remember these programmes die off or at least not around to blow their trumpet to a potentially younger audience.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 10:43:33 GMT
Yes, that's it. When I say NTSC, I mean to say that the releases of 1948 Show / Do Not Adjust Your Set / The Frost Programme are all in 525 / US TV system (being that these were not in colour anyway). There seem to be no releases of Rediffusion material from a 625 line (PAL) source (as none have come out here from a UK company). The BFI hold the known existing Rediffusion catalogue (although the rights are owned by Archbuild) and they could in theory make any of this material available for release, should a UK company consider it a viable prospect. As Peter says though, the longer it goes on, the potential market shrinks anyway, making the increasing obscurity of this material a self-fulfilling prophesy.
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Post by RWels on Oct 26, 2014 11:25:14 GMT
What I meant was strictly technical, that sometimes a R1 NTSC copy will be released in Australia as R4 (or R0) NTSC. They're skipping the conversion to PAL for sheer laziness, because PAL playback equipment usually supports NTSC (even if the reverse is less likely). Hasn't really anything to do with the rights, or the recoveries.
I suspect if archbuild do not allow it, there will be bootlegs. Like it or not, most previously known ALT1S episodes have been 'around' for some time.
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Post by Peter Bradford on Oct 26, 2014 17:32:34 GMT
....There seem to be no releases of Rediffusion material from a 625 line (PAL) source (as none have come out here from a UK company). .... Surely Rediffusion were not technically equipped to produce material in 625 PAL, their studio base at Wembley subsequently being converted to 625 line working by LWT? |
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Post by Ken Griffin on Oct 26, 2014 20:24:42 GMT
Not a myth at all. The few releases of Rediffusion material have all been NTSC / region 0, probably meaning that the rights situation is a bit different / more do-able for non-UK territories / UK-based companies. The region encoding and the television system has nothing to do with the rights. NTSC / Region 0 is often used where only one DVD master is to be utilised worldwide - PAL televisions can handle NTSC without problems but the reverse isn't always the case. All the Rediffusion releases were issued by a UK-based company, Boulevard Entertainment, and licenced from Archbuild. At least some of the masters used came from the BFI - one programme from the Frost Programme release contains a caption stating that the print is from the NFTVA collection. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 8:13:25 GMT
I can tell the difference between a TV system and a rights situation perfectly well, thanks. I was commenting that it was odd that the only Rediffusion material released on it's own steam has been NTSC / 525, implying that it might be easier to release their stuff outside of the UK than within it. I know nothing of Boulevard Entertainment but the discs have U.S. copyright notices at the start, as with region 1 releases, suggesting these DVD sets are ported in from an outside-the-UK release (see also my reply to Peter's points below).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 8:18:10 GMT
....There seem to be no releases of Rediffusion material from a 625 line (PAL) source (as none have come out here from a UK company). .... Surely Rediffusion were not technically equipped to produce material in 625 PAL, their studio base at Wembley subsequently being converted to 625 line working by LWT? That's quite true, Peter, but we're getting a bit tangled up talking at cross purposes here! I was referring to the remastering and not the original VT format they were shot on. The telerecordings of the shows (regardless of whatever VT standard they were originally produced on) needed to be transferred to one video system or another for DVD release. In this case, they seem to have been remastered to 525 / U.S. standard (which is an odd thing to do if some of the prints were sourced from the BFI collection). It suggests anyway that the prints were not mastered in the U.K. and were done initially with a non-UK release in mind (and we eventually just ended up with a clone of the U.S. remastering). |
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Post by Alex Taylor on Oct 29, 2014 19:54:09 GMT
Anyone else having problems accessing this? I'm getting errors in both Firefox and IE. I've also tried www.missing-episodes.com/ with the same lack of results. |
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Post by RWels on Oct 29, 2014 19:58:28 GMT
Anyone else having problems accessing this? I'm getting errors in both Firefox and IE. I've also tried www.missing-episodes.com/ with the same lack of results. It's the virus scanner detecting one of the adverts on the site. |
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Post by Alex Taylor on Oct 29, 2014 20:16:47 GMT
Whose virus-scanner?
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Great finds, I'm absolutely thrilled. 
This is indeed a major one! 
