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Post by ianphillips on Aug 4, 2016 12:46:35 GMT
So I watched the Dalek Masterplan yesterday (Yes, all of it in one day) for the first time and I got on Tardis Wki to read the story notes as I usually do when I watch an episode for the first time and I noticed that the tapes for part 4 were sent to Blue Peter for an episode and were never returned. Alone this isn't anything special, but I also know that the Tenth Planet part 4 was also sent to Blue Peter and never returned. Both of the episodes the clips from these Doctor Who episodes were used in aired in November 1973. That just seems like a bit too much of a coincidence. I know there has already been a lot of research done on what happened to the Tenth Planet episode and I'm sure fans in their ever-vigilance would ahve already noticed this correlation, but what are the chances that there was an employee working at Blue Peter who would steal the tapes after they had been used and sell them to a private collector. Again, this is merely specualtion and I don't have anything to base it on, but what do you all think of this? Also, does anyone knows whether tapes from other shows were never returned after being sent to Blue Peter in November 1973?
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Post by ianphillips on Jul 17, 2016 23:10:03 GMT
This is a question for all you people who saw the original broadcast of the Tenth Planet Part 4. What was your initial reaction when you saw William Hartnell turn into Patrick Troughton, and what was your first impression of Troughton when you realized he was the new Doctor?
Also, unrelated question, but talking about the first few episodes of Troughton, I watched the Loose Cannon Reconstruction of it recently, and I thought I heard a baby crying right in the middle of the climax scene. Am I just imagining things or did the person who recorded it in 1966 pick up his child's crying. If so, is that the only recording of Power 6, or is there another without the crying?
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Post by ianphillips on Jul 13, 2016 17:13:37 GMT
I can't say that I've seen all of the pre-80s episodes or even all of the episodes on this list, but I can say that I am glad the two with my favorite music (at least that I've heard) Fury and Macra survive at least in part. I also know that approximately 23 seconds of the inflatable chair theme from Terror of the Autons survives because during the actual episode it plays in otherwise complete silence. BBC Worldwide actually uploaded the clip it can be heard in. www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXrAK6sUZ_0
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Post by ianphillips on Jul 13, 2016 4:01:49 GMT
So is there like a complete list of missing music somewhere because if there is then I would be interested in seeing it. Also, do you know whether the music is missing based on serial, or is it randomly interspersed? Example: Would all of the music from say The Myth Makers be completely missing and all of the music from the Abominable Snowmen be intact, or would both serials be missing music?
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Post by ianphillips on Jul 8, 2016 3:51:56 GMT
I haven't seen all of the missing episodes, but of the ones I've seen, These are what I think the expectations will be:
Marco Polo: As this is the 60s story with the most stills, the reconstructions do a good job telling the story as it is. Honestly, I think that if it were found, people would just be like "Oh, is that it?" The only parts that would really benefit from being found would be the fight scenes (especially ones in episode 5 and episode 7). So I think it would be a bit of a let down apart from episode 7 which I think would be surprisingly good as it would give us the duel scene, the most fancy sets, and the backgammon game.
Mission to the Unknown: Definitely a hidden gem. It often gets overlooked because it's really short and doesn't have any of the regular cast, but it still holds up. The cast that it does have is small which means that there is more time to develop them. Really, I would love it if this episode were found, and I think it wwould surprise a lot of people with how good it is.
The Massacre: Honestly, I think the reactions for this one would be exactly the same as what people think they would be.
The Smugglers: This one would blow people away. This is definitely a hidden gem. While a pretty standard historical, it is definitely not a generic episode as ot has its own unique atmosphere. There is a great abundance of fight scenes. The fourth episode especially would be good.
The Macra Terror: I honestly think this one would be a bit of a let down. The first three episodes work extremely well as reconstructions, more than any other that I've watched. It would be a lot like Marco Polo where people realize it's actually a lot less than they thought it was. Episode 4 would be the only episode that meets expectations and the only episode that would really benefit from being found. The other three would still be good, but when most people think of the Macra Terror they picture it a lot like episode 4, but the first three episodes are more about the dialogue than the action.
Fury from the Deep: I think that this one would expectations in some respects, but blow them away in others. Much like the Macra Terror, when people picture this episode they think of episodes 5 and 6, while forgetting that not much action happens in the first four episodes. However, I think that the direction, which we can see from the surviving clips was very good, would really surprise people.
The Space Pirates: While I haven't seen this episode, I know a lot about it, and I don't think it would ever be considered good even if it were found, but I think it does have the potential to become a sort of cult episode.
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Post by ianphillips on Jul 8, 2016 3:27:59 GMT
So recently I got my hands on some Loose Cannon reconstructions (which are awesome by the way) and I've seen anout six so far, but as I've been watching them I have noticed certain pieces of incidental music that I really like. I have the 50th anniversary music collection cd and they aren't on there. I'm wondering if, and if so, where these are available for purchase. I am specifically insterested in the self titled "The Macra Theme" from the Macra Terror which plays pretty much any time the Macra are on screen (specific examples are the cliffhangers for episodes one and two), and the music from Fury from the Deep. Any ideas?
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