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Post by edstradling on Dec 19, 2015 13:28:00 GMT
As I said, it's risk/reward. My machine now doesn't work after playing only 50-odd tapes. I will go through all the tapes in full eventually. But priorities!
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Post by edstradling on Dec 18, 2015 17:52:29 GMT
So, I've just found a tape labelled "Cliff Richard Eurovision 1973 & Olivia Newton-John 1974". It's essentially their "Song for Europe" shows where they sang a bunch of songs and a winner was chosen. Neither show is 100% complete, certainly neither show has opening titles. The first programme, I think must be this edition of Cilla, which exists according to lostshows. The second one is almost certainly this episode of Clunk Click, and it's missing according to lostshows website. Looks like this tape will play pretty well. I guess ONJ fans might well be interested. The bad news of course is that Savile is in it, slobbering all over ONJ at the start. The good news is this tape plays pretty well, wobbling is generally restricted to the overscanned areas. The bad news is that I think the belts on my machine have just gone. So the next update could be a month or two away!
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Post by edstradling on Dec 18, 2015 15:53:09 GMT
Just found another copy of this on one of Ian Levine's Philips tapes. Much better quality but unhappily the recording starts about 20 seconds later than the YouTube version, so it can't be the original source of this YT video.
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Post by edstradling on Dec 18, 2015 14:37:44 GMT
Well the Why Don't You? is all captured, but will take a while to sort out! Dropped frames etc. Will get around to it at some point.
Just been trying one of Ian's off-airs, incidentally, which plays beautifully. Sadly it's an off-air Star Trek (TX 26/9/78), which is no use to man or beast!
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Post by edstradling on Dec 18, 2015 0:07:16 GMT
I'm watching The Newsroom right now, and my computer is doing the work. Digitizing three versions of Why Don't You, all with the tracking line in a different place.
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Post by edstradling on Dec 17, 2015 22:42:54 GMT
Surely that means they have episodes 3, 5, 7 & 10. 1, 2, 6, 8 & 9 are missing. 4 is missing but they have some bits on VHS.
Ian has episodes 5-8 inclusive, from 20th Aug thru 10 Sep. I would imagine he recorded the others (he wanted the cartoons) but they weren't labelled and catalogued in the usual way, I found them in the basement. But I went back and looked again and couldn't find any more.
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Post by edstradling on Dec 17, 2015 22:00:45 GMT
Ian did record the original TX, but that was only months after he got his first Philips machine (Aug 76) and he had very few tapes which he had to reuse. He recorded it to keep on its 1977 rerun but as I understand it, it had been cut by then. He later recorded them on UMatic on BBC1 in 1978. That is exactly what reliable sources told me, yes. There's the very small chance that he taped over it with a show that was at least a few minutes shorter and didn't leave the machine running. Studio tapes would contain even more. Oh well, what the other fellow said about hope. I thought of that, he almost certainly went over it with an early 1977 Dr Who, which would have left the end of the episode on the tape, but Ian told me he filled up any gaps at the ends of tapes with cartoons, so I'm not hopeful.
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Post by edstradling on Dec 17, 2015 21:59:14 GMT
Generally yes, unless they are BBC tapes which start with time clocks. The machines are so fragile and liable to be screwed by dodgy tapes (Scotch tapes in particular seem to be dangerous), or to get a tape stuck in the mechanism. So I'm generally fearful of too much winding through tapes. But if it's an off air recording then I will. I'd recommend checking to the end even if there's a VT clock - look at how many tapes have had little bits of rushes at the end... It's more a question of risk -v- reward. Every tape I play carries a risk, the machines are extremely fragile, and are difficult/expensive to repair. Plus I've already had two tapes snap when using the fast wind. If I get through all these tapes and the machine still works I will be surprised. So at the moment, stuff which might be missing is priority. After I've looked through all of those, and the machine still works, I'll look at the ends I've just digitized a Why Don't You which, if the lostshows website is accurate (not always, I understand), is very likely missing. The tape says episode 4 and the end credits say 1980, so if lostshows is accurate, it's eiuther 10/4/80 or 26/12/80, both of which are listed as missing. Alas I can't get rid of the tracking lines on this one, but I'll see if I can do a second playback and get the lines in a different place, maybe I can then put them together digitally. BTW there were three missing Points of View and two missing Get Set Picture Show episodes in Ian's VHS collection.
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Post by edstradling on Dec 17, 2015 21:41:17 GMT
There are several studio recordings of The Borgias. Not seen any from Shakespeare as yet.
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Post by edstradling on Dec 17, 2015 21:39:40 GMT
Who knows! If you come upon I, Claudius episode "Zeus by Jove", you might even find the uncut ending! Ian did record the original TX, but that was only months after he got his first Philips machine (Aug 76) and he had very few tapes which he had to reuse. He recorded it to keep on its 1977 rerun but as I understand it, it had been cut by then. He later recorded them on UMatic on BBC1 in 1978.
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Post by edstradling on Dec 16, 2015 23:38:08 GMT
Generally yes, unless they are BBC tapes which start with time clocks. The machines are so fragile and liable to be screwed by dodgy tapes (Scotch tapes in particular seem to be dangerous), or to get a tape stuck in the mechanism. So I'm generally fearful of too much winding through tapes. But if it's an off air recording then I will.
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Post by edstradling on Dec 16, 2015 23:03:15 GMT
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Post by edstradling on Dec 16, 2015 22:20:31 GMT
Shall we turn this thread into my Philips 1500 diary? The next tape was the 19/1/75 episode of "Out of the Rut" but it wouldn't track properly. Philips tapes are notorious for this. The next one is playing fine and was labelled with something illegible but is in fact the episode of Music Arcade which features Dr Who, which I once used a clip of in a programme of mine. Worth it for the "Schools and Colleges" intro though and a nice "follows shortly" at the end. TX 02/02/1982 and it's followed by "Communicate!" which almost certainly will exist as it's all film.
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Post by edstradling on Dec 16, 2015 21:39:13 GMT
It had an amusing shot of a German TV magazine promotion of Jason King!
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Post by edstradling on Dec 16, 2015 21:19:49 GMT
Yes, it's Lord Michael Birkett. Not Frank. I was looking at a tape of Frank Spencer when I posted that! Anyway, aside from the usual wobbles at the start, it played back ok. It was an off-air recording from the original TX in October 73. It's this episode genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/7ce67f150d8f468ba23cb47407431d60
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