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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2013 6:07:12 GMT
Hi Everyone,
I'm totally new here, finding this board when hunting for more information about this story after receiving an e-mail about it from the US website tvshowsonDVD.com (one of the most reputable sites for information regarding upcoming DVD releases in the US).
I've read lots of talk going back and forth on this board between people who are more likely to believe the rumor and those who totally reject it. I for one will go so far as to say that there is little doubt in my mind that the rumor is completely accurate. I was stunned to receive the e-mail I received earlier this afternoon, and to read the posting on BleedingCool afterward (a website that I'd never heard of before), but I really shouldn't have been. Because I've been expecting this news for the past few weeks. You see, I attended a Doctor Who fan convention in Atlanta, GA, on the last Sunday of May. That morning a close friend and I shared the elevator with Andrew Cartmel, and then we joined him with about 15-20 fans for a Q&A session. One question I asked him was what missing story he would most like to see returned, and I think he said Evil of the Daleks. But then he told all of us in the room that he had inside information that something REALLY BIG was about to be announced regarding missing episode discoveries, but that he couldn't say anything else right then because it was too big of a secret.
To be honest, I haven't the faintest idea who Rich Johnston is, having never heard the name before today. However, being a long-term Whovian I definitely know who Andrew Cartmel is, and since I was in the room when he said (basically in response to my own question) that something really big was about to happen, I'm going to have to believe this rumor.
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Post by D. Frame on Jun 15, 2013 6:57:32 GMT
Hi Everyone, I'm totally new here, finding this board when hunting for more information about this story after receiving an e-mail about it from the US website tvshowsonDVD.com (one of the most reputable sites for information regarding upcoming DVD releases in the US). I've read lots of talk going back and forth on this board between people who are more likely to believe the rumor and those who totally reject it. I for one will go so far as to say that there is little doubt in my mind that the rumor is completely accurate. I was stunned to receive the e-mail I received earlier this afternoon, and to read the posting on BleedingCool afterward (a website that I'd never heard of before), but I really shouldn't have been. Because I've been expecting this news for the past few weeks. You see, I attended a Doctor Who fan convention in Atlanta, GA, on the last Sunday of May. That morning a close friend and I shared the elevator with Andrew Cartmel, and then we joined him with about 15-20 fans for a Q&A session. One question I asked him was what missing story he would most like to see returned, and I think he said Evil of the Daleks. But then he told all of us in the room that he had inside information that something REALLY BIG was about to be announced regarding missing episode discoveries, but that he couldn't say anything else right then because it was too big of a secret. To be honest, I haven't the faintest idea who Rich Johnston is, having never heard the name before today. However, being a long-term Whovian I definitely know who Andrew Cartmel is, and since I was in the room when he said (basically in response to my own question) that something really big was about to happen, I'm going to have to believe this rumor. O, no. Just when I'd decided this was all nonsense. Now I'm confused again.
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Post by mattplace on Jun 15, 2013 7:13:02 GMT
www.aintitcool.com/node/62878its really spreading... expecting nothing to come of it(but a small glimmer of hope to see something) Good luck to any negotiations(if there are any that is). and how have i gone 41 odd years never hearing the word "parsing" before .. but read it enough in 1 message board to last me a lifetime
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Post by johndorney on Jun 15, 2013 7:26:05 GMT
Hi Everyone, I'm totally new here, finding this board when hunting for more information about this story after receiving an e-mail about it from the US website tvshowsonDVD.com (one of the most reputable sites for information regarding upcoming DVD releases in the US). I've read lots of talk going back and forth on this board between people who are more likely to believe the rumor and those who totally reject it. I for one will go so far as to say that there is little doubt in my mind that the rumor is completely accurate. I was stunned to receive the e-mail I received earlier this afternoon, and to read the posting on BleedingCool afterward (a website that I'd never heard of before), but I really shouldn't have been. Because I've been expecting this news for the past few weeks. You see, I attended a Doctor Who fan convention in Atlanta, GA, on the last Sunday of May. That morning a close friend and I shared the elevator with Andrew Cartmel, and then we joined him with about 15-20 fans for a Q&A session. One question I asked him was what missing story he would most like to see returned, and I think he said Evil of the Daleks. But then he told all of us in the room that he had inside information that something REALLY BIG was about to be announced regarding missing episode discoveries, but that he couldn't say anything else right then because it was too big of a secret. To be honest, I haven't the faintest idea who Rich Johnston is, having never heard the name before today. However, being a long-term Whovian I definitely know who Andrew Cartmel is, and since I was in the room when he said (basically in response to my own question) that something really big was about to happen, I'm going to have to believe this rumor. O, no. Just when I'd decided this was all nonsense. Now I'm confused again. If it helps, I remember JN-T announcing the return of The Tenth Planet 4 at a convention decades ago. That ended well. I'm slightly unsure why Andrew Cartmel would know about missing episode recoveries, really.
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Post by Tony Ingram on Jun 15, 2013 7:32:48 GMT
You do realize that if these episodes DO turn up,it will be SUCH an anti-climax.Arguing about whether they have turned up or if it's a hoax or not,is so much more interesting than having them actually turn up!The only thing that worries me,and what makes me very dubious about the whole topic is the wildly fluctuating number of episodes that seem to have been found- 1,2,4 or 42 episodes depending on who is in the know or what well connected sources they've spoken to. I do not think we need worry about them turning up, more's the pity. We know the rumour was debunked by Paul on GBASE. Are you only programmed to say this one specific phrase?
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Post by Brad Phipps on Jun 15, 2013 7:35:28 GMT
Geez... I disappear for a couple of months and we get the mother of all rumours!
Seems very far fetched. In 20 years we've had only four episodes returned. Now suddenly there's over forty coming back at once...?
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Post by Ed Smyth on Jun 15, 2013 7:41:59 GMT
The mention of Tenth Planet ep 4 being 'secretly' included on the 'Regenerations' Box set makes me at once suspicious of all this. The truth is, if Tenth Planet episode 4 was discovered it would be a major event and its discovery would be unveiled at a BFI screening with a panel of guests who participated in the episode. Anyway, I guess once the 'Regenerations' box set is out we'll get to the bottom of this either way! Surely, if The Tenth Planet 4 has been recovered, BBC WW and 2 | Entertain would use the Regeneration set as a way to recoup the costs for the animation, and release the previously hidden episode on the standalone issue later this year..? I assume that would make more economic sense. For various reasons I've followed these rumours intensively for the last few months, but lurked until now. I feel, after hearing much evidence, that there's definitely some BBC material found. This could be a haul of existing episodes, missing episodes, both, or just a few of each, but a discovery of JUST dozens and dozens of *missing* Who sounds too good to true. Equally, I don't share the general pessism of a few über fans who claim it all to be mere fantasy. But then I'm very young, so the biggest disappointment I've had so far is DWO's infamous Web of Fear 'heads-up' in 2007..
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Post by Martin Kinsella on Jun 15, 2013 7:43:46 GMT
The trouble is Paul ignored any follow up questions, valid ones at that, and therefore left it open to wider interpretation. All he needed to say was no episodes have been returned or are in negotiation to be returned and have their whereabouts known to those doing the searching. The fact (and you cant deny it) that he only said "nothing has been returned or is currently being worked on" has done nothing to stop this rumour going from small message board chatter to something far bigger. Indeed, what I heard last night from someone very well known in the missing episode circles makes me think that this could either be the stuff of dreams or the biggest nightmare since the original junkings. Perhaps Paul is fed up of answering the same question in numerous different ways. Assuming this Bisto rumour is true then why could it be the biggest nightmare since the junkings ?
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Post by Martin Kinsella on Jun 15, 2013 7:50:04 GMT
Bigger is not better though David... rumour wise it just gets everyones hopes and expectations up to be cruelly dashed. I have just had a txt message naming stories through on my mobile... Not from the source I mentioned before but it shows how quickly things are spreading... The worry is we are all going to be left with the "I told you so-ers" sniggering behind their hands. As i previosly said, let's wait and see. If something does hooray, if not, at least I can listen to missing episodes of my show and know that what I can see will be of beautiful quality. Come November when nothing turns up Rich Johnston won't be reminding people and if some one calls him on it he'll just say his "source" got some bad intel. We'll be onto the next rumor by then. Precisely. He has heard the rumour, generated lots of clicks to his site and publicity. By November he will simply be a dozen or more rumours down the line, of which some will be true.
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Post by johndorney on Jun 15, 2013 7:55:43 GMT
and how have i gone 41 odd years never hearing the word "parsing" before .. but read it enough in 1 message board to last me a lifetime That and Bisto.
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Post by Martin Kinsella on Jun 15, 2013 8:11:14 GMT
and how have i gone 41 odd years never hearing the word "parsing" before .. but read it enough in 1 message board to last me a lifetime That and Bisto. Can we add debunked to that ?
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Post by Martin Kinsella on Jun 15, 2013 8:11:51 GMT
I do not think we need worry about them turning up, more's the pity. We know the rumour was debunked by Paul on GBASE. Are you only programmed to say this one specific phrase? Tony, there is no need to be insulting. What I am saying is a fact.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2013 8:19:28 GMT
Long-time lurker, compelled finally to sign up by all this hoo-ha.
There is a screening of The Two Doctors at the BFI in London this afternoon in the presence of Colin Baker, Frazer Hines et al. Seems like it would be a good moment to screen a little of, hmm, Enemy Of The World, what with it featuring two Patrick Troughtons.
NB. I have no clue whether this is going to happen, I'm just speculating.
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Post by Ian King on Jun 15, 2013 8:21:38 GMT
Are you only programmed to say this one specific phrase? Tony, there is no need to be insulting. What I am saying is a fact. Except it isn't, as has been pointed out to you on numerous occasions in this thread. Paul debunked a couple of minor aspects while tellingly steering well clear of denying the main substance and has been eerily silent ever since. Yet you keep repeating this fallacy as definitive proof despite having been set straight again and again. Small wonder people are starting to get annoyed by that.
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Post by tonyrichards on Jun 15, 2013 8:29:23 GMT
Hi Everyone, I'm totally new here, finding this board when hunting for more information about this story after receiving an e-mail about it from the US website tvshowsonDVD.com (one of the most reputable sites for information regarding upcoming DVD releases in the US). I've read lots of talk going back and forth on this board between people who are more likely to believe the rumor and those who totally reject it. I for one will go so far as to say that there is little doubt in my mind that the rumor is completely accurate. I was stunned to receive the e-mail I received earlier this afternoon, and to read the posting on BleedingCool afterward (a website that I'd never heard of before), but I really shouldn't have been. Because I've been expecting this news for the past few weeks. You see, I attended a Doctor Who fan convention in Atlanta, GA, on the last Sunday of May. That morning a close friend and I shared the elevator with Andrew Cartmel, and then we joined him with about 15-20 fans for a Q&A session. One question I asked him was what missing story he would most like to see returned, and I think he said Evil of the Daleks. But then he told all of us in the room that he had inside information that something REALLY BIG was about to be announced regarding missing episode discoveries, but that he couldn't say anything else right then because it was too big of a secret. To be honest, I haven't the faintest idea who Rich Johnston is, having never heard the name before today. However, being a long-term Whovian I definitely know who Andrew Cartmel is, and since I was in the room when he said (basically in response to my own question) that something really big was about to happen, I'm going to have to believe this rumor. But then again, at a convention at Riverside Studios, Anneke Wills let slip that she thought Power was being returned... Nothing has come of it (yet). Come on everyone, j*bbies rumour or not...it's interesting how long it's been circulating and from many varied sources the information is coming from... Fair enough it has been said it has been d*bunked...but I am still of the wait and see brigade! After all the Great Intelligence turned up on TV after 40 odd years again
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