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Post by John Wall on May 16, 2013 16:56:33 GMT
From the work done by Jon Preddle, et al it wouldn't be too difficult to produce a credible hoax as there are sufficient holes and loose ends in the various (bicycle) chains.
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Post by Daniel Hornby on May 16, 2013 17:04:45 GMT
From the work done by Jon Preddle, et al it wouldn't be too difficult to produce a credible hoax as there are sufficient holes and loose ends in the various (bicycle) chains. These sufficient holes and loose ends would also be a reason to think that some have slipped through the net.
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Post by John Wall on May 16, 2013 17:08:55 GMT
From the work done by Jon Preddle, et al it wouldn't be too difficult to produce a credible hoax as there are sufficient holes and loose ends in the various (bicycle) chains. These sufficient holes and loose ends would also be a reason to think that some have slipped through the net. I totally agree. However, a lot of people have had egg on various parts of their anatomy in the past !
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Post by grantgoodman on May 16, 2013 18:07:28 GMT
If it's true we will know via official channels. But this seems like a variation on hoaxes and speculation we've heard before. I would be happy to be proven wrong but it seems rather unlikely.
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Post by cjones on May 16, 2013 18:47:06 GMT
Many thanks, Daniel, for the update - most appreciated!
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on May 16, 2013 19:02:52 GMT
Yeah,and those 40 recovered episodes are are all Shibadens as big as ovens....!
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Post by Robin Stephenson on May 16, 2013 19:24:45 GMT
Hmm, pigs being spotted in the air above Skaro perchance?
Like everyone I would love this to be true. Any Who even partial would be a treasure trove. But unlikely me thinks!
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Post by Elliott Prince on May 16, 2013 23:54:35 GMT
Would it be possible for someone to post a link to the post on Outpost Skaro?
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Post by Mark Vanderlinde-Abernathy on May 17, 2013 2:02:11 GMT
This is the initial post from Outpost Skaro: As you may have followed via twitter, we were told a while ago about a number of missing episodes that may have been uncovered. We waited until it was confirmed by a source we trust completely before making an announcement.
Here's what we know. There has been quite a considerable amount of old episodes from various programmes from the late sixties and seventies discovered. These are of variable quality. The copyright's of some - which ties up the rest - is questionable.
We understand that there are some Dr Who episodes amongst this haul. What and how many we don't know as yet. We might have a full story, we might have half an episode! We might even think it's a certain story only to find it's irreparable or mislabeled and what we have is nothing exciting (unless you like Dixon of Dock Green of course!)
As for an official announcement, well, it's very unlikely to come through us, unfortunately. We'd love it to, but, well, probably not. As to when, it's likely to be in the "closed season" of Dr Who which will in itself feed a lot of exciting new content for the 50th Anniversary. Twitter is where it originally started. On May 12th Outpost Skaro tweeted: Cautiously jumping in2 the deb8. A reliable source tells me tht a considerable cache of missing episodes have been found. Announcement soon. For a couple days they pretty much kept quiet saying they knew nothing else. On May 14th they clarified further: Happy to clarify. We hear - now from two sources - that a load of.missing BBC eps have been recovered incl. Dr Who... There's a legal thing going on but hopes r to make an announcement soon. We dont know what, how many, or when.
Other tweets have stated that they believe there is damage to the prints (though they aren't sure which) and that there are Troughtons. He states that one of the sources gave him a name of an episode, but at this time they aren't divulging it due to it not being theirs to divulge. Several tweets deal with them insisting that they aren't out to wind people up, nor do they have any reason to hoax anyone. The site has been around for six years now. The only reason it seems for them to make this wind-up announcement is to be the "you heard it here first!" site.
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Post by Mark Vanderlinde-Abernathy on May 17, 2013 2:17:32 GMT
Both DWOnline and Outpost Skaro are Doctor Who fan sites that have been attempting to build reputations. I can't imagine either of them stooping to the level of hoaxers just to gain popularity. Especially since after years of existence they shouldn't need to.
DWOnline was admonished by Paul V. and others over on Gallifrey Base when they made mention of an "exciting announcement" and proceeded to wind people up by posting not only to the Spoilers thread, but the Missing Episodes thread. For Outpost Skaro to make these bold announcements so soon after that whole mess ... well I hope they have extreme confidence in their sources.
I'm aghast by all this honestly. The title of this thread is "Will interest in missing episodes wane?" and my answer is certainly "Not any time soon." A fair amount of hoaxes have been occurring lately, bolstered by both the 2011 recoveries and the 50th Anniversary where Moffat has been writing a lot of references to missing episodes.
Individuals have made "claims" to owning certain episodes. Certainly the Rogue Cyberman incident is an extreme form of this. Now websites with "sources" are getting into claiming recoveries? I'm not sure what to make of it. Does one consider the build up of "chatter" to be indicative of an upcoming annoucement? Or just nerves of the fandom going bonkers over wishing for the near-impossible?
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on May 17, 2013 6:03:42 GMT
30 years ago if an episode was found there was a small footnote in the Gallifrey Guardian section in Dr Who Monthly and then we could all get on with our lives!Now there's all this social media frenzy-all completely pointless unless the BBC makes any sort of official announcement.In the meantime I suggest we all get on with our lives...
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Post by Jim Exley on May 17, 2013 7:37:00 GMT
It does all seem to be a bit crazy of late. I'll readily admit to hoping there's some truth in it, of course, but there does seem to be a pattern for real recoveries - simply that the real ones usually appear out of the blue, whilst conversely it's unusual for a rumour of a find to become fact. Apologies to the gentlemen I'm about to mention, as I'm sure it's rather tedious from their side of things, but the reaction on the forums every time Messrs Bignell and Vanezis step in to debunk a rumour always reminds me of "Brian's" quandary where the crowd insist Brian is the Messiah no matter whether he says he is or not!
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Post by Andrew Haddow on May 17, 2013 8:37:30 GMT
Now there's all this social media frenzy-all completely pointless unless the BBC makes any sort of official announcement.In the meantime I suggest we all get on with our lives... Totally agree. If we're going to report every rumour on here we'll never have an end to it.
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on May 17, 2013 10:21:35 GMT
I thank you.
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Post by richardwoods on May 17, 2013 11:57:23 GMT
And there is the quandary, this is after all a Missing Episodes forum and so the issue of when or when not to comment on a rumour is a difficult one. Personally I think that there is nothing wrong in commenting on something like this latest one as it does seem to be a little different from normal, nothing to say it won't turn out to be a load of bollocks like so many others though...............
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