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Post by Rob Moss on Jun 6, 2013 10:27:00 GMT
Nothing, I was just pointing it out as an area of restoration that hasn't yet been tackled.
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Post by brianfretwell on Jun 6, 2013 11:15:07 GMT
Nothing, I was just pointing it out as an area of restoration that hasn't yet been tackled. I though you meant people might be searching for the original film inserts myself.
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Post by Sue Butcher on Jun 6, 2013 12:54:00 GMT
Recent tests showed the video fields could be unpicked on a 625-line film negative, so the out-of-phase film sequences might be fixed this way if the original negatives still exist. If not, perhaps the image doubling could be tackled as a special kind of motion deblurring problem? (I'm afraid the mathematics of this are beyond me!)
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Post by Nicholas Fitzpatrick on Jun 6, 2013 15:52:15 GMT
Can anyone around here shed light on BabelColour's comment that work was halted on the colourisation at one point, because they believe they had located the actual colour prints somewhere? [In the end, the paperwork proved to (obviously) be incorrect.] Were there colour prints? It would have been videotape surely? I'm surprised there's been no clarification about that story. It only aired in Colour in South Korea, the Philippines, and the USA (and it's dependencies). So it's not tied to any of the rumours that have been floating around about missing episodes.
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Post by Steven Sigel on Jun 6, 2013 15:56:58 GMT
@nick - You are correct, the only Dr. Who story ever printed on colo(u)r film was "Spearhead from Space" -- all others were B&W Telerecordings only.. So if a color copy were to surface, it would have to be VT.
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Post by Sue Butcher on Jun 7, 2013 4:05:54 GMT
The actual colour film inserts themselves might turn up, it's happened with other shows.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2013 9:30:29 GMT
Recent tests showed the video fields could be unpicked on a 625-line film negative, so the out-of-phase film sequences might be fixed this way if the original negatives still exist. If not, perhaps the image doubling could be tackled as a special kind of motion deblurring problem? (I'm afraid the mathematics of this are beyond me!) If they do exist as negatives that's a new field of research for the team (if they fancy undertaking it, of course!). Does anyone from the RT reading this know for certain if the t/r negs exist or are they just prints?
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Post by gregbakun on Jun 10, 2013 17:51:54 GMT
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Jun 20, 2013 18:54:52 GMT
Can I just say that this restoration is a thing of beauty.Although the colour recovery isn't perfect,the overall picture,sound,sharpness is much better than even the COA SE-and that had better surviving elements than MOE!Great to have it back in such wonderful condition!The Restoration Team have to be applauded for this release,it really is wonderful.
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Post by Tim Burrows on Jun 23, 2013 14:59:13 GMT
Sorry if this has been answered before, but did I read somewhere that Babelcolour's (AMAZING) colour restoration was halted, because another copy of episode one was found? Was it lacking chromadots too?
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Post by Andrew Haddow on Jun 23, 2013 15:27:26 GMT
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Post by Tim Burrows on Jun 23, 2013 15:32:20 GMT
Thanks Andrew. So much happened in 2011!
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Post by Charles Daniels on Jun 23, 2013 16:06:46 GMT
Sorry if this has been answered before, but did I read somewhere that Babelcolour's (AMAZING) colour restoration was halted, because another copy of episode one was found? Was it lacking chromadots too? This originated in an interview Babelcolour did with tellytechblog.com. The relevant section is: "I really don't know if I'm at liberty to explain, but I can't see any harm in discussing the vagaries of it. Pete called a halt to proceedings in December 2011 because it appeared the original colour tapes had been found. Apparently, paperwork in a foreign station indicated that they had copies of the tapes and so the colourisation work was stopped. It seemed to be a very credible and authentic find. We waited for further developments and about three months passed – during which time I was able to colourise the sequences for Terror of the Zygons. Around Easter it all transpired to be an admin error with the station's catalogue. Their paperwork indeed confirmed they had the tapes, but they were not in the archive, so back to work it was! It afforded me the opportunity to work on Zygons but made a significant dent in the time-scales involved in colourising The Mind of Evil." this post makes me wonder if I was just fobbed off back in the 90s. During the 90s I spent a good deal of time contacting stations which had shown Dr Who, trying to find out if they had any clue or lead on colour Pertwees. In every case I got someone to investigate and get back to me. The only hopeful news I ever got back was from KVIE in Sacramento, California. They claimed to have Planet 3 in colour, and claim that it was broadcast in 1987. Now I actually had that off air! So I checked and the continuity said "And now for the first time entirely in colour!" However it was an omnibus with planet 3 skipped out. Anyway, all these stations seemed helpful. So did one station fob me off and tell me they had no records, when apparently they did?
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Post by Andrew Haddow on Jun 23, 2013 17:23:41 GMT
So did one station fob me off and tell me they had no records, when apparently they did? I suspect - although there is no evidence to support this - that a few stations who took the Ian Levine fax in the 80s, 'Do you have any Doctor Who' , glanced at their 1000s and 1000s of disorganised film cans in the corner and said 'no'.
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Post by Tim Burrows on Jun 23, 2013 23:44:33 GMT
I wonder if Babelcolour's got a spare 15 minutes, he could recolourise 2-6? Not that I'm not awe inspired by the chromadot process, but the throbbing of colour renders it an inferior watch to the hand coloured stuff IMO.
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