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Post by Craig Robins on Jan 10, 2013 13:56:41 GMT
Much more likely it's from some sort of animation demo thing, just to show what they're capable of achieving. This is ground I covered previosly. If I were the commissioning editor, I'd wouldn't ask the animators to create anything that was of no use for a prospective DVD, unless it was of something that actually existed so I could judge how accurately they could reproduce anything.
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Post by Daniel Hornby on Jan 10, 2013 14:56:11 GMT
The forum's been rather quiet recently. Great to see there's things to talk about again!!!
I would have thought that if any episodes of The Power of the Daleks were found, this reconstructed clip would be in black and white NOT colour. Making it in colour doesn't make any sense unless it is a stand-alone clip/episode.
As for UM2, there doesn't appear to be a good reason as to why it has not been released. It could have been put out with 'Air Lock', given both Hartnell and Troughton were released together in Lost in Time. The long wait seems like a kick in the teeth to many fans, given the BBC destroyed the episodes in the first place!
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Post by Simon Smith on Jan 10, 2013 15:02:51 GMT
The forum's been rather quiet recently. Great to see there's things to talk about again!!! I would have thought that if any episodes of The Power of the Daleks were found, this reconstructed clip would be in black and white NOT colour. Making it in colour doesn't make any sense unless it is a stand-alone clip/episode. As for UM2, there doesn't appear to be a good reason as to why it has not been released. It could have been put out with 'Air Lock', given both Hartnell and Troughton were released together in Lost in Time. The long wait seems like a kick in the teeth to many fans, given the BBC destroyed the episodes in the first place! Yes, the BBC did destroy the episodes, but a)that was commonplace during the 60's and 70's. b)I'm not sure how many of the people working on restoring the episode were personally junking prints back in the 70's.
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Post by Richard Tipple on Jan 10, 2013 15:03:32 GMT
Out of interest - I don't have the audio on me at the moment - how much of the regeneration does 'Power 1' show? Is it from Hartnell/Troughton on the floor or does it begin earlier with Hartnell's 'It's far from being all over!'
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Post by Rob Moss on Jan 10, 2013 15:14:52 GMT
I don't think it reprises anything, it just begins with a wide shot of Troughton on the floor and carries on from there.
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Post by Richard Tipple on Jan 10, 2013 15:23:53 GMT
I don't think it reprises anything, it just begins with a wide shot of Troughton on the floor and carries on from there. Well there you go, thanks Rob!
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Post by Daniel Hornby on Jan 10, 2013 15:31:07 GMT
The forum's been rather quiet recently. Great to see there's things to talk about again!!! I would have thought that if any episodes of The Power of the Daleks were found, this reconstructed clip would be in black and white NOT colour. Making it in colour doesn't make any sense unless it is a stand-alone clip/episode. As for UM2, there doesn't appear to be a good reason as to why it has not been released. It could have been put out with 'Air Lock', given both Hartnell and Troughton were released together in Lost in Time. The long wait seems like a kick in the teeth to many fans, given the BBC destroyed the episodes in the first place! Yes, the BBC did destroy the episodes, but a)that was commonplace during the 60's and 70's. b)I'm not sure how many of the people working on restoring the episode were personally junking prints back in the 70's. Firstly, it was commonplace yes but it doesn't stop many fans feeling annoyance. Secondly, my point never mentioned names and did not even insinuate that the RT destroyed anything. It's not really fair to take my point completely out of context.
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Post by Craig Robins on Jan 10, 2013 15:49:01 GMT
I would have thought that if any episodes of The Power of the Daleks were found, this reconstructed clip would be in black and white NOT colour. Making it in colour doesn't make any sense unless it is a stand-alone clip/episode. Based on what we know, it does seem odd for it to be in colour but your conclusions doesn''t necessarily follow. Perhaps they were asked to supply a colour example just by way of comparison? Maybe they wanted the option because they were exploring alternative uses for the animation other than the one we presume? It's easy to subsequently render it in black and white, so the fact this clip is colour doesn't rule out anything.
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Post by D. Frame on Jan 10, 2013 16:59:03 GMT
Out of interest - I don't have the audio on me at the moment - how much of the regeneration does 'Power 1' show? Is it from Hartnell/Troughton on the floor or does it begin earlier with Hartnell's 'It's far from being all over!' We do already have the actual moment of change thanks to blue Peter. It's that first look at troughton working out who he is now that's so important. To me anyway
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Post by Richard Tipple on Jan 10, 2013 17:05:38 GMT
Out of interest - I don't have the audio on me at the moment - how much of the regeneration does 'Power 1' show? Is it from Hartnell/Troughton on the floor or does it begin earlier with Hartnell's 'It's far from being all over!' We do already have the actual moment of change thanks to blue Peter. It's that first look at troughton working out who he is now that's so important. To me anyway We don't have all of it though, it stops before we fully see Troughton. But that's another topic all together!
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Post by John Andersen on Jan 10, 2013 17:14:02 GMT
I haven't heard any rumours about Savages or Web, please enlighten me. (not that I pay any attention to them unless your last name is Roberts or Bignell or Venezis or...) One of the rumors started when Mark Gatiss said that The Web of Fear was on his soon to be found want list or wish list. This occurred the day he announced at the BFI that Airlock and The Underwater Menace 2 were found, and this was printed in DWM. Apparently some thought he might have inside information and only mentioned that The Web of Fear was on his soon to be found list. A wish list or a want list is a lot different than actually having information or that something else has been found. I have a want and wish list for what I would like to see found, but I have no information that can help. This is the type of example where things can easily get out of hand.
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Post by John Andersen on Jan 10, 2013 17:20:39 GMT
The forum's been rather quiet recently. Great to see there's things to talk about again!!! I would have thought that if any episodes of The Power of the Daleks were found, this reconstructed clip would be in black and white NOT colour. Making it in colour doesn't make any sense unless it is a stand-alone clip/episode. As for UM2, there doesn't appear to be a good reason as to why it has not been released. It could have been put out with 'Air Lock', given both Hartnell and Troughton were released together in Lost in Time. The long wait seems like a kick in the teeth to many fans, given the BBC destroyed the episodes in the first place! The Underwater Menace story is only missing two episodes now. It is possible that they are animating episodes 1 and 4 since Dan Hall said they can afford to animate two episodes for each DVD release.
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Jan 10, 2013 17:40:54 GMT
The makers of the animated episodes of The Reign of Terror are saying that it is actually CHEAPER to animate stories with MORE than 2 episodes missing since the necessary infrastructure is now in place for making the animations.So I'm hoping that stories such as the superb Faceless Ones and Evil of the Daleks will see the light of day with their missing gaps filled in sooner rather than later!This comes as wonderful news.
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Post by Craig Robins on Jan 10, 2013 17:45:54 GMT
Cheaper than what?
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Jan 10, 2013 18:09:35 GMT
It's more cost effective in comparison to doing animations of just 2 episodes apparently.So,therefore cheaper over a larger number of animated episodes and so better value.
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