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Post by Craig Robins on Jan 10, 2013 18:24:44 GMT
Cost effective is very different to being cheaper. It's pretty obvious that costs per episode will be less the more you do as you don't have to create a whole new set of backgrounds or characters - this has always been the case. However, the total cost for three episodes is still going to be greater than the two the budget will stretch to.
So the only way you're going to get more than two episodes of animation will be if the budget is increased or the animators drop their base price.
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Jan 10, 2013 18:39:04 GMT
Yes,but there is now the hope that more animations per story will not be prohibitively expensive.Costs do go up and on the basis of value perhaps it's better to do the animations sooner rather than later and the release of the longer incomplete stories now seems more feasible.
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Post by Craig Robins on Jan 10, 2013 18:45:18 GMT
But you're still ignoring the most important point. The budget only allows for two episodes.
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Post by Richard Tipple on Jan 10, 2013 18:47:43 GMT
Yes,but there is now the hope that more animations per story will not be prohibitively expensive.Costs do go up and on the basis of value perhaps it's better to do the animations sooner rather than later and the release of the longer incomplete stories now seems more feasible. The economy of scale. It may be cheaper per episode when commissioning three animations but that doesn't mean the total cost will be less - it won't.
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Post by Hugh Pearson on Jan 10, 2013 18:49:13 GMT
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Post by Brad Phipps on Jan 10, 2013 19:52:52 GMT
Out of interest - I don't have the audio on me at the moment - how much of the regeneration does 'Power 1' show? Is it from Hartnell/Troughton on the floor or does it begin earlier with Hartnell's 'It's far from being all over!' It begins on a shot of Troughton looking-up-from-his-feet perspective, as a flash of white light is slowly receding, revealing the new Doctor's face.
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Post by Jon Preddle on Jan 10, 2013 21:17:57 GMT
Out of interest - I don't have the audio on me at the moment - how much of the regeneration does 'Power 1' show? Is it from Hartnell/Troughton on the floor or does it begin earlier with Hartnell's 'It's far from being all over!' It begins on a shot of Troughton looking-up-from-his-feet perspective, as a flash of white light is slowly receding, revealing the new Doctor's face. From my own fuzzy memories of seeing this episode in November 1969 (when I was five) I always thought we also saw the regeneration footage from The Tenth Planet 4 again. But the camera script, off-air audios and telesnaps all indicate that no footage from TTP4 was spliced in. A case of the memory cheats.
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Post by grantgoodman on Jan 10, 2013 22:02:47 GMT
I figured they might be waiting to see how Reign of Terror does and release it with the missing episodes animated (ditto Moonbase). Or with Ice Warriors or a Mindrobber SE.
As for the animation I wonder if they will do a half hour version of Power of the Daleks and include it with Tenth Planet...
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Post by Brad Phipps on Jan 10, 2013 22:54:07 GMT
From my own fuzzy memories of seeing this episode in November 1969 Lucky bugger.
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Post by Jon Preddle on Jan 10, 2013 23:05:31 GMT
From my own fuzzy memories of seeing this episode in November 1969 Lucky bugger. All I remember of this episode is in the TARDIS -- and that's it! I remember the new Doctor waking, then looking into the mirror and seeing 'Hartnell'. But I have no specific recollection of anything after that. We only rented a TV, and it was returned the following week. I saw nothing more of Troughton until The Moonbase, by which time it was winter again, and the TV came back!
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Post by Sue Butcher on Jan 10, 2013 23:20:34 GMT
Apart from cost, the advantage of animating a serial with most of the episodes intact is you'd have a lot of reference material to swipe from and less that needs designing from scratch.
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Post by D. Frame on Jan 11, 2013 7:30:03 GMT
I figured they might be waiting to see how Reign of Terror does and release it with the missing episodes animated (ditto Moonbase). Or with Ice Warriors or a Mindrobber SE. As for the animation I wonder if they will do a half hour version of Power of the Daleks and include it with Tenth Planet... Like the Marco Polo thing ther did only with moving images. That could be enjoyable and painfully frustrating at the same time. I suppose that would stay within the 2 animated episodes a DVD limit on Tenth Planet.
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Post by Richard Tipple on Jan 11, 2013 9:57:09 GMT
Apart from cost, the advantage of animating a serial with most of the episodes intact is you'd have a lot of reference material to swipe from and less that needs designing from scratch. Fair point but sometimes having less is better. If you have stills and fragments, you'll be expected to build VERY accurate sets/designs. If you have nothing to go on, the more 'hardcore' fan won't be pulling it to pieces for its inaccuracies!
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Post by Sue Butcher on Jan 11, 2013 10:54:23 GMT
Well, if they animate Space Pirates 6 and they use a dial on the nuclear detonator rather than a digital clock, I'd politely point out the mistake!
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Post by Richard Tipple on Jan 11, 2013 11:07:16 GMT
Well, if they animate Space Pirates 6 and they use a dial on the nuclear detonator rather than a digital clock, I'd politely point out the mistake! and you'd be quite right!
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