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Post by John Green on Jan 22, 2012 12:07:57 GMT
Then there's all those missing early Avengers,Army Games with Bill Hartnell and Ice Warrior Bernard Bresslaw... And it came out in the Bob Monkhouse documentary that live shows would often differ from theit TV/Radio times listing,with Bob writing in the acts that were actually on.How rarely these days we hear "In place of the advertised show we have...". Tele-snaps show us what was actually did.As the phrase goes,they are the closest and best evidence.(Short of a telerecording).
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Post by ajsmith on Jan 22, 2012 12:12:29 GMT
I was wondering about United myself recently - is there any other example of a BBC show of comparable episode count and era for which NOTHING survives? I would think that, had United! a Dr Who sized fanbase, something wouldve been turned up by now, it's just that no one's been interested in looking. My fantasy archive world is one in which every missing show has a dedicated fanbase who excavate and preserve it's archive.
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Post by Simeon Carter on Jan 22, 2012 13:02:12 GMT
I don't mean to sound rude but could people keep to the point of the thread. Sorry if I'm being a pain. Thanks.
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Post by John Green on Jan 22, 2012 13:10:28 GMT
Sorry,Simeon.Given that the thread says (Not Telesnaps) we've certainly gone O.T. I hope that more home-made photos turn up,but it would help a lot (again) if the point was broadcast to the general public.There must be more stills (and perhaps 8mm?) out there.
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Post by George D on Jan 22, 2012 13:53:17 GMT
The sad thing is ms cura offered the BBC ALL his telesnaps when he died, and they refuesed them. so she "disposed" of them.
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Post by Simeon Carter on Jan 22, 2012 16:44:50 GMT
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Post by spectroxnest on Jan 22, 2012 19:51:36 GMT
Yes it is.
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Post by Simeon Carter on Jan 22, 2012 23:56:55 GMT
Thank you spectroxnest!
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Post by John Green on Jan 24, 2012 20:47:26 GMT
If I might just mention teesnaps while we're waiting for more off=air photos to surface. The only time I saw any-Z Cars ones-I remember them as being ridged to the touch in the way that early 60s school photos were.Also,that they were die-cut-or maybe trimmed with scissors!-so that what you see in DMW telesnaps reconstructions is what you got,a telly-shaped photo. Wrong on both counts?
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Post by Richard Bignell on Jan 24, 2012 20:54:39 GMT
The television shape wasn't because that's the way he cut them - that's just the outline of the HMV television he used at the time.
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Post by LanceM on Jan 25, 2012 1:41:11 GMT
That makes complete sense here Richard, very interesting to hear there in regards. So, was not by choice, rather by function that these were printed-cut-created the way they were as described here.
Cheers, Lance.
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Post by Jim Exley on Jan 25, 2012 15:40:47 GMT
Still off topic (sorry!) and on the subject of John Cura, is any information known about the camera he used? Seems to be the case that he constructed or modified it himself. Given the combination of the negative size and the average number of snaps per programme, I'd surmise he was using 35mm half-frame format? I'd appreciate any further info, just out of interest. Cheers, Jim
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Post by Richard Bignell on Jan 25, 2012 15:48:58 GMT
Yes, John was an ex-RAF photographer and built his own cameras which shot on half the 35mm frame.
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Post by George D on Jan 26, 2012 4:19:01 GMT
The one thing that Im surprised about is that we had 3 or 4 people recording the audios in the 60s but very few if any consistantly taking pictures off air. Even if someone did a 36 exposure camera once a week we'd have some more telesnaps. What would have been golden, ifsomeone had a 8mm camera time releasing a picture every second Based on 3600 frames on a super 8 home movie, if one took one frame a second one would have apx 1500 telesnaps an episode with a film cartridge lasting 2 1/2 episodes.
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Post by Simeon Carter on Jan 26, 2012 17:20:38 GMT
George. There is a difference between an off-air photograph and a telesnap. A telesnap has to be taken by John Cura otherwise it is just an off-air photograph.
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