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Post by Jon Preddle on Feb 9, 2012 23:56:36 GMT
After seeing the impact the Daleks had on the program through the Hartnell era in terms of viewers, I'm surprised they didn't send something like The Evil of the Daleks. Terry Nation / his agent still kept a very tight control over use of the Daleks, a control which may have extended even to prints being sent as Auditions. The Ice Warriors may have been chosen because at that particular time (May 1968), and judging by the date that the serial was censored in Australia (March 1968), it was the most recent one to be cleared for sale and be telerecorded. (Australia didn't get the next batch of stories - Enemy of the World onwards - until after June 1968.)
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Post by John F Brayshaw on Feb 10, 2012 0:00:54 GMT
After seeing the impact the Daleks had on the program through the Hartnell era in terms of viewers, I'm surprised they didn't send something like The Evil of the Daleks. Terry Nation / his agent still kept a very tight control over use of the Daleks, a control which may have extended even to prints being sent as Auditions. The Ice Warriors may have been chosen because at that particular time (May 1968), and judging by the date that the serial was censored in Australia (March 1968), it was the most recent one to be cleared for sale and be telerecorded. (Australia didn't get the next batch of stories - Enemy of the World onwards - until after June 1968.) Which leads to another question: Did Terry and or his Agent keep copies of the Missing Dalek episodes? I.e. Master Plan, Power and Evil.
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Post by Jon Preddle on Feb 10, 2012 0:17:50 GMT
Which leads to another question: Did Terry and or his Agent keep copies of the Missing Dalek episodes? I.e. Master Plan, Power and Evil. If he had, they wouldn't be missing. He/they would have given back to the BBC to make copies. After all, Nation would make oodles of money by doing so, more so than by not.
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Post by John Wall on Feb 10, 2012 0:49:10 GMT
Which leads to another question: Did Terry and or his Agent keep copies of the Missing Dalek episodes? I.e. Master Plan, Power and Evil. If he had, they wouldn't be missing. He/they would have given back to the BBC to make copies. After all, Nation would make oodles of money by doing so, more so than by not. Remember, also, that Nation had little/nothing to do with Daleks on Dr Who between Masterplan and Planet.
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Post by John F Brayshaw on Feb 10, 2012 2:18:34 GMT
If he had, they wouldn't be missing. He/they would have given back to the BBC to make copies. After all, Nation would make oodles of money by doing so, more so than by not. Remember, also, that Nation had little/nothing to do with Daleks on Dr Who between Masterplan and Planet. Yes, but he was the writer of the 1st half of the Master Plan, and Evil was supposed to be the last Dalek story.
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Post by Ash Stewart on Feb 10, 2012 11:46:42 GMT
Terry Nation / his agent still kept a very tight control over use of the Daleks, a control which may have extended even to prints being sent as Auditions. The Ice Warriors may have been chosen because at that particular time (May 1968), and judging by the date that the serial was censored in Australia (March 1968), it was the most recent one to be cleared for sale and be telerecorded. (Australia didn't get the next batch of stories - Enemy of the World onwards - until after June 1968.) Which leads to another question: Did Terry and or his Agent keep copies of the Missing Dalek episodes? I.e. Master Plan, Power and Evil. No; just four episodes of Dalek Invasion of Earth (ref; DWM this month).
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Post by John F Brayshaw on Feb 10, 2012 12:41:00 GMT
Thanks Ash! I guess Terry didn't keep copies either.
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Post by George D on Feb 12, 2012 3:07:28 GMT
If Terry had kept copies of his dalek stories, we'd have 21 more episodes right now.
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Post by Richard Tipple on Feb 12, 2012 18:18:35 GMT
If you haven't yet got your hands on this months DWM please do. There is an incredible feature by Richard Molesworth.
It's nothing more than speculation on my part but I just hope that some episodes have fallen into the hands of private collectors. Countries like Gibraltar, Mauritius and Singapore. Marco Polo was seemingly sold everywhere and yet not one episode survives...The speculation around Dalek episodes is always fun. I just can't imagine someone would have a 60's Dalek episode and not know about it! A more unfashionable story like Massacre of Savages would be more likely to be forgotten in an attic somewhere, wouldn't it? All speculation of course.
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Post by John Andersen on Feb 12, 2012 21:05:30 GMT
If you haven't yet got your hands on this months DWM please do. There is an incredible feature by Richard Molesworth. It's nothing more than speculation on my part but I just hope that some episodes have fallen into the hands of private collectors. Countries like Gibraltar, Mauritius and Singapore. Marco Polo was seemingly sold everywhere and yet not one episode survives...The speculation around Dalek episodes is always fun. I just can't imagine someone would have a 60's Dalek episode and not know about it! If there is a collector with a missing Dalek episode, they probably know that they have it. They just don't know it's missing.
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Post by John F Brayshaw on Feb 13, 2012 0:54:19 GMT
If you haven't yet got your hands on this months DWM please do. Thern incredible feature by Richard Molesworth It's nothing more than speculation on my part but I just hope that some episodes have fallen into the hands of private collectors. Countries like Gibraltar, Mauritius and Singapore. Marco Polo was seemingly sold everywhere and yet not one episode survives...The speculation around Dalek episodes is always fun. I just can't imagine someone would have a 60's Dalek episode and not know about it! If there is a collector with a missing Dalek episode, they probably know that they have it. They just don't know it's missing. Or they will wait for the right time to return it. Of course what is their right time
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Post by Leighton Haberfield on Feb 28, 2012 23:38:19 GMT
50th anniversary would be a good time especially with all the press coverage. Be good opportunity to promote the search for missing eps then.
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Post by John F Brayshaw on Feb 29, 2012 0:12:52 GMT
50th anniversary would be a good time especially with all the press coverage. Be good opportunity to promote the search for missing eps then. At least we get the Reign of Terror this year.....
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Post by andymckinney on Feb 29, 2012 16:14:32 GMT
The Dalek films were shown in some European countries, The Sixties book has a picture of a Spanish poster. The first film was also shown in the USA, but the B/W episodes were never sold to any US broadcaster. Did the BBC even try to sell the show to the US before they did that deal with the early Pertwees? I don't have any recollection of such. My guess is they never tried since the US had moved onto mostly colour shows from 1966, and perhaps it was felt the US market wouldn't be interested in a black-and-white show?
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Post by Richard Marple on Feb 29, 2012 17:50:47 GMT
DWM 444 briefly mentions that the BBC tried marketing Dr Who in America in 1965, with a syndicated(?) package of the first few stories.
I wonder if any episodes were sent over for test marketing.
The lack of colour is probably a reason for the lack of sales, but IIRC The Forsythe Saga was sold in the USA a few years later.
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