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Post by Joshua Watson on Jul 3, 2011 14:14:15 GMT
Ronnie McDevitt, There is always a possibility that episodes are out there in the hands of collectors, but if you don't believe it it's because you don't want to! Believing things breeds false hope, which then leads to let down when nothing is found. Anything is possible and in my own opinion all those episodes are out there!
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Post by Simon Smith on Jul 3, 2011 15:15:04 GMT
Well, that's what my earlier question was about. I believe there are indeed episodes out there yet to be returned. However, realistically, it is highly unlikely that anything like a complete set will ever exist.
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Post by Steven Sigel on Jul 3, 2011 21:32:56 GMT
Ronnie McDevitt, There is always a possibility that episodes are out there in the hands of collectors, but if you don't believe it it's because you don't want to! Believing things breeds false hope, which then leads to let down when nothing is found. Anything is possible and in my own opinion all those episodes are out there! It is possible that there are episodes in the hands of collectors, but I seriously doubt that there are many (if any). The reason is that you almost never see Dr. Who episodes for sale on ebay, or at film shows, or in film collectors magazines. If there were a substantial # of prints in private hands, you would expect that the run of the mill existing episodes would turn up for sale from time to time. But they rarely do. |
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Post by B Thomas on Jul 4, 2011 1:30:37 GMT
Dr Who episodes are like Schroedinger's cat though, aren't they? If one missed seeing the last print of an episode burnt, buried or butchered then it both potentially exists and doesn't all at the same time. As long as no one can offer positive proof of a certain thing having been thrown to it's ultimate destruction there are people of a certain mindset who will take this as certifiable proof of it being 'out there' somewhere.
Honestly, it's like proving or disproving the existence of God. And we don't even have a Babelfish to help the argument along...
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Post by Ewan Montague on Jul 4, 2011 17:23:38 GMT
We could throw in Heisenberg and make it even more uncertain, just don't observe it.
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Post by John Wall on Jul 4, 2011 17:33:19 GMT
Or Kronenberg. Hic....
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Post by Anthony Clark on Jul 4, 2011 19:18:47 GMT
Ronnie McDevitt, There is always a possibility that episodes are out there in the hands of collectors, but if you don't believe it it's because you don't want to! Believing things breeds false hope, which then leads to let down when nothing is found. Anything is possible and in my own opinion all those episodes are out there! Belief without evidence is foolish. Proof is what we really need, not speculation. Frankly, I've never really understood why people make big statements about what's out there without even the slightest hint of a clue. That said, I guess it makes no difference... it just looks a little odd to my eyes. |
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Post by Ewan Montague on Jul 6, 2011 15:39:12 GMT
Things do look better with Kronenberg, drink enough and you may start seeing missing episodes. |
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Post by Gids Llewellyn on Jul 10, 2011 21:33:40 GMT
I've just been watching BBC's "Fake or Fortune?" this evening, and there was mention of the British Museums film collection. I didn't even know they had one! I know it would be a slim avenue of exploration... but is it possible that museums or even councils around the country may have something in their vaults? After all, if works of art and collectibles are donated/bequeathed to them... why not film collections?
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Post by John Wall on Jul 10, 2011 22:23:07 GMT
I've just been watching BBC's "Fake or Fortune?" this evening, and there was mention of the British Museums film collection. I didn't even know they had one! I know it would be a slim avenue of exploration... but is it possible that museums or even councils around the country may have something in their vaults? After all, if works of art and collectibles are donated/bequeathed to them... why not film collections? Any archive/collection is worth checking. They may not have TP4 but there is lots of other missing stuff. |
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Post by Richard Bignell on Jul 11, 2011 7:43:45 GMT
I've just been watching BBC's "Fake or Fortune?" this evening, and there was mention of the British Museums film collection. Actually, it's wasn't the British Museum, it was the Imperial War Museum, who is well known for housing masses of war related footage. Indeed, that's where some stock clips used in Doctor Who were originally sourced and hired from. In general, a lot of museums choose not to stock film and so this sort of material usually works its way over to the many regional film archives in the country. |
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Post by Ewan Montague on Jul 11, 2011 15:43:19 GMT
It may be worth contacting some museum volunteer associations. Most museum archives are not recorded in detailed a spool of film may just be recorded as a spool of film with a accession number.
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