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Post by Joshua Watson on Jun 23, 2011 16:56:46 GMT
Australia does seem to pop up a lot when it comes to Dr Who!!! Recently President Mugabe's name has popped up a lot, this could just be rumours, but we have to keep the dream alive right? 108 missing episodes is it? I think there is a slight chance of finding a few... Don't you?
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Post by Ewan Montague on Jun 23, 2011 17:23:03 GMT
Dr who will undoubtedly have been recorded on a regular basis but then recorded over, question is, what sort of people would keep then tape. Perhaps a bit of investigation into Sony, Phillps Hitachi(the new name for the Shebaden Co.) company records may give clues to where recorders were sold and to who. Does anyone know any old Electronics store owners/managers they may be of help. They may even have recordings, Something would have been recorded as a demo. I remember in the 80's electronics stores would play off air recordings of shows recorded a few days earlier to demonstrate the video machines.
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Post by Richard Bignell on Jun 23, 2011 20:42:48 GMT
Perhaps a bit of investigation into Sony, Phillps Hitachi(the new name for the Shebaden Co.) company records may give clues to where recorders were sold and to who. I hate to be such an old stick-in-the-mud, Ewan, but that really is clutching at straws. Why would a manufacturer keep records of individual customers? Equipment such as this would be sold via dealers, not directly to the public. And even *if*, by a million to one chance, such information existed at all, it certainly would not be accessible to the general public. I think the assertion that "Dr who will undoubtedly have been recorded on a regular basis but then recorded over" is a bit of a leap of logic as well.
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Post by Greg H on Jun 23, 2011 21:08:10 GMT
Finding owners of early domestic video recorders is always going to be a needle in a haystack approach. It is always worth casting the net or looking at publications for enthusiasts from the 60s and 70s but I doubt very much there will be records existing of who purchased these machines any more so than any other electrical appliance. I would love to be wrong on that but there it is! Hopefully more missing material will turn up from domestic recording in the course of time.
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Post by John Wall on Jun 23, 2011 21:36:55 GMT
Perhaps a bit of investigation into Sony, Phillps Hitachi(the new name for the Shebaden Co.) company records may give clues to where recorders were sold and to who. I hate to be such an old stick-in-the-mud, Ewan, but that really is clutching at straws. Why would a manufacturer keep records of individual customers? Equipment such as this would be sold via dealers, not directly to the public. And even *if*, by a million to one chance, such information existed at all, it certainly would not be accessible to the general public. I think the assertion that "Dr who will undoubtedly have been recorded on a regular basis but then recorded over" is a bit of a leap of logic as well. What does slightly peeve me (I was going use another word beginning with P !) is that, with a few exceptions, most of what's missing was shown only once in the UK whereas I get the impression that these were shown several times abroad
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Post by Paul Vanezis on Jun 23, 2011 23:04:58 GMT
What does slightly peeve me (I was going use another word beginning with P !) is that, with a few exceptions, most of what's missing was shown only once in the UK whereas I get the impression that these were shown several times abroad I guess it would have been better had 'Doctor Who' not been sold abroad at all. Then we would have just a handful of examples of single eps and possibly one or two complete stories. The fact that these were screened abroad (like many other programmes) means that film copies were made and therefore some survive to this day. Paul
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Post by Ross Mann on Jun 24, 2011 4:20:59 GMT
Golly gosh, haven't I opened a can of worms lol.
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Post by Ross Mann on Jun 24, 2011 4:25:43 GMT
Not bad for something that started "As a mild curiosity in a junk (shop) yard" lol
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Post by Ross Mann on Jun 24, 2011 12:53:50 GMT
Hi all, been checking out the national sound and film archives down here in aus. Unfortunately they don't seem to have the Keep Australia Beutiful ads featuring Tom Baker (these can be found on YouTube the quality isn't great) they do have (don't know why!) Robot, Pyramids of Mars,The Green Death,The Complete Second Series and Voyage of the Damned. Apart from Voyage (which has that Minogue chick in it) can't think how they got such a selection, can anybody shed any light in this?
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Post by John Wall on Jun 24, 2011 18:39:06 GMT
Complete Second Series of what ? Dr Who with William Hartnell ?
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Post by B Thomas on Jun 25, 2011 10:03:11 GMT
Complete Second Series of what ? Dr Who with William Hartnell ? I think he means the first Tennant series...
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Post by Rob Moss on Jun 25, 2011 16:49:12 GMT
Finding owners of early domestic video recorders is always going to be a needle in a haystack approach. It is always worth casting the net or looking at publications for enthusiasts from the 60s and 70s but I doubt very much there will be records existing of who purchased these machines any more so than any other electrical appliance. I would love to be wrong on that but there it is! Hopefully more missing material will turn up from domestic recording in the course of time. Even if the retailers had forwarded details of the purchasers to the manufacturer (which they wouldn't have), and even if the manufacturers had retained this information for several decades (which, again, they wouldn't have), the Data Protection Act 1998 would forbid them from disclosing this information to anyone. Dead end guys, move on.
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Post by Ross Mann on Jun 26, 2011 3:49:22 GMT
Sorry people, I'm pretty sure it's the Tennant series, they don't specify. Went to my local market this morning, lots of old videos and related junk. Got a bit of a headache lookin' through all that stuff!! Nothing of any interest to speak of. I'm lookin for anything on any format too, Im sure it's a trillion to one chance of finding anything, but I'll keep an enthusiastic eye out anyway.
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Post by Joshua Watson on Jun 26, 2011 21:32:54 GMT
I really think it's time to give up If there was anything it would most likely have been found by now Being Doctor Who fans we want to think that there is still something out there, but there's a strong chance there's nothing.
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Post by John Wall on Jun 26, 2011 22:34:05 GMT
I really think it's time to give up If there was anything it would most likely have been found by now Being Doctor Who fans we want to think that there is still something out there, but there's a strong chance there's nothing. It's been a while since any missing Dr Who turned up and, consequently, the probability of anything else being found is reducing. However, let's consider a few points: (1) missing material contemporary with, or older than, missing Dr Who is still turning up. (2) there is a lot of other missing material that somebody looking for missing Dr Who might find. When people like Paul get into an archive they look for anything and everything. (3) There are Pertwee episodes that only survive in b&w and either have no choma dots or Colour Recovery is difficult - e.g., Mind of Evil. An off-air colour recording, even on a non-professional format, could help restore these to something approaching their former glory. So, to summarise, yes, let's be realistic but keep looking.
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