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Post by George D on Dec 10, 2011 17:14:17 GMT
I whole heartedly agree that they contacted stations asking for the return of episodes yet the question comes to whether they did as through a job as paul did, and would they have found more if they had. or did they simply send a letter
my reading into pauls comments is stuffed was wiped as currently as the late 80s.maybe it wasnt dr who.but who knows if it was something else exciting?
people are talking about spending 100k to colorize or restore an episode, and I'm glad were doing what we can.but I wonder if the bbc hadinvested 50k to have a person go around the world physically searching archives, back in the late 70s or 80s,would it have paid for itself in future dvd.sales?just a thought
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Post by Douglas Wulf on Dec 11, 2011 6:10:18 GMT
"They shouldn't have waited so long to check for those episodes" can now be added as a further regret on top of "They shouldn't have thrown away those episodes!" Hindsight is 20/20!
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Post by Anthony Clark on Dec 11, 2011 10:39:08 GMT
Now that we’ve told ‘nothing was found’ could we have details of where was checked and something about the process? I know many people here would be interested.
Also – and I’m assuming the answer’s ‘yes’ – is that the end of the coordinated global archive search for lost material?
PS: What I find odd is that some Joe 90 was turned but nothing else worth a mention.
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Post by VERNON LEE ROBERTS on Dec 13, 2011 1:26:45 GMT
i wonder if marco polo will ever be found any thoughts about this
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Post by andybell on Dec 13, 2011 1:32:54 GMT
Was reading through the comments of the Guardian article on the recent find and came across a poster who posted: "An ex-brother-in-law of mine from Sierra Leone claimed in the early 1990s that he had seen a stack of tape reels of Dr. Who shows archived in a Freetown broadcasting studio. Some of the more intrepid Whoies may want to follow up on this as I've since lost contact with the man. www.slbc.sl/ " Not sure if Sierra Leone has been searched or not (I'm new, still reading through the thread!), just thought I'd bring it to someones attention
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Post by Paul Vanezis on Dec 13, 2011 15:05:54 GMT
Not sure if Sierra Leone has been searched or not, just thought I'd bring it to someones attention Hi Andy, Well it's a good spot, although a few people have already emailed me with the info. I can now confirm that there is no material in Sierra Leone, but I can also say that we think the report is correct, that there were Dr. Who and other films in Sierra Leone in the early 1990's. In fact, we think we know which ones. I'm afraid that between 1991 and 2002 the civil war prevented any meaningful exploration of their archives and we very recently discovered that the TV station, including their entire archive, was destroyed during the civil war, we think in 1999. The list of material lost is far too distressing to print here. Regards, Paul
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Post by Ronnie McDevitt on Dec 13, 2011 15:13:00 GMT
`The list of material lost is fat too distressing to print here' Guarunteed that won't stop people coming on here demanding to know! Reading between the lines of Pauls post though - personally I'd rather not know.
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Post by A J Meredith on Dec 13, 2011 15:42:35 GMT
Oh dear. The masochist in me would like to know, but I know it would ruin my day. Wasn't there an archive in Kenya or somewhere which burnt down too? The loss of the Sierra Leone one is particularly painful though. I mean, 1999, that's like yesterday! Full-scale searches for lost episodes were already long established.
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Post by Ash Stewart on Dec 13, 2011 15:49:50 GMT
Even without knowing what the episodes were, a gander at the Broadwcast site (http://gallifreybase.com/w/index.php/Sierra_Leone), or a flick through Wiped, will give a list of what they bought...
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Post by John Fleming on Dec 13, 2011 16:55:28 GMT
The list of material lost is far too distressing to print here. I think it's reasonable to assume that Paul means missing Who, and probably not just the odd episode here and there either I see they bought Marco Polo and The Massacre, two of the stories without a single second of surviving footage.
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Post by n cornwall on Dec 13, 2011 17:21:20 GMT
All missing Hartnell prior to "The Smugglers" (except the 13 part Dalek epic).
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Post by David Robinson on Dec 13, 2011 17:38:36 GMT
Ouch that hurts!!!! What a pity it wasnt checked before the war started
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Post by John Andersen on Dec 13, 2011 18:19:04 GMT
Ouch that hurts!!!! What a pity it wasnt checked before the war started According to one of the issues of Doctor Who magazine from late 1983 or early 1984, the BBC were in the process of contacting every place they sold Doctor Who to in the past. They apparently told the BBC that they had nothing left at that time. If the television station had proper records as to what was really there, the material could have been recovered then. If I may quote Castellan Spandrell from The Deadly Assassin, "I see. Such efficiency." I am not faulting the BBC for this. Other television stations should at least have an up to date catalog of what is in their inventory and what isn't.
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Post by John Andersen on Dec 13, 2011 18:23:05 GMT
All missing Hartnell prior to "The Smugglers" (except the 13 part Dalek epic). I am stunned. That is more than I can take. I need a drink, a strong one.
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Post by Gary Robinson on Dec 13, 2011 19:03:21 GMT
Not sure if Sierra Leone has been searched or not, just thought I'd bring it to someones attention Hi Andy, Well it's a good spot, although a few people have already emailed me with the info. I can now confirm that there is no material in Sierra Leone, but I can also say that we think the report is correct, that there were Dr. Who and other films in Sierra Leone in the early 1990's. In fact, we think we know which ones. I'm afraid that between 1991 and 2002 the civil war prevented any meaningful exploration of their archives and we very recently discovered that the TV station, including their entire archive, was destroyed during the civil war, we think in 1999. The list of material lost is far too distressing to print here. Regards, Paul Along with the Armchair Theatres in Cyprus this makes depressing reading!
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