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Post by Ronnie McDevitt on Apr 16, 2010 12:34:47 GMT
Rich Cornock said on April 14th `this is getting a bit off topic and maybe better in the Dr Who section!'
I came to the same conclusion about three pages ago Rich!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2010 13:01:41 GMT
I'm happy for people to go off-topic as long as it's interesting and new stuff being said. Doesn't have to follow the theme to the letter as conversation develops organically and goes where it will!
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Post by Joe Haynes on Apr 16, 2010 17:33:00 GMT
So when will the BBC start to show Upload Archive shows in complete form? I would like to see something done like 4OD
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Post by davemachin on Apr 20, 2010 17:48:17 GMT
Good points made here. I do find the music a little intrusive at times. I think the music gets too much prominence and quite frankly I found the idea of a Dr Who at the Proms night frankly silly. Another good episode this week I thought. Not a classic but Moffat has taken away all the bad traits of Davies' reign in one swoop. The over use of music, the camp opera and the rest have gone. It's made it a programme I can actually sit down and watch again. That's amazing. I do know the best is yet to come though. Dave
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Post by James C on Apr 20, 2010 19:30:44 GMT
Amy Pond is definately the hottest redhead to hit DW since Liz Shaw in 1970!
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Post by Rich Cornock on Apr 20, 2010 19:47:52 GMT
I'm happy for people to go off-topic as long as it's interesting and new stuff being said. Doesn't have to follow the theme to the letter as conversation develops organically and goes where it will! I see your point Laurence but this thread is now way off topic and by letting it be so it devalues the point of having titles to each thread. in this case you may as well call it BBC Archive or Dr who if you like
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Post by Jeff Lewis on Apr 20, 2010 21:00:48 GMT
So when will the BBC start to show Upload Archive shows in complete form? I would like to see something done like 4OD I intially thought you wrote "I would like to something done before I die" but I'm not quite sure it will happen.
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Post by davemachin on Apr 22, 2010 14:31:09 GMT
I think the archive will start to be uploaded over the next 20 years or so. It is happening in a limited way now. We the people that saw those shows originally and who they meant something to though will not be the generation that stands to benefit from an online archive most, I am sad to say. I wonder if future generations will just take it for granted as it's just there to access so easy.
The thing about the fifties / sixties / seventies generations is that we grew up when tv was a new thing full of promise. So we were always interested in what it was doing. tv now is more like wallpaper in the background and an online archive is just another collection of moving images for us to peer at. I hope I am wrong as moving image archives are a vital window to the past. Educating people to value these archives is the way forward but no one seems to care enough to be doing this.
Dave
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2010 10:18:20 GMT
Yes, I think you've hit upon the exact reason why our generations are as keen about archive TV as we are, Dave. Anyone growing up from the early '50s through till probably the late '70s (i'm a '60s kid myself) regarded the medium as something special and headed for great things. A lot of the powerful TV that came from those years stayed with us into adulthood but we had no way of watching a lot of it again. When VHS came along, it offered a very limited means of revisiting programmes. It's unfinished business for our generations! So now the prospect of online archives of vintage stuff makes us excited as there is still so much TV from those pioneering years that we either only saw the once or just missed at the time! It's also very sad that the chance has taken so long to arrive for our generations - tomorrow's children will have it all on tap but will it mean anything to them?
Anyone growing up in an earlier age (say, '30s / '40s) probably championed cinema or radio as their medium of choice. Anyone growing up in the '80s and beyond would have regarded TV as something that was less vital and just "there" and were more interested in computers / internet etc. etc. So it's people growing up within a specific 20 - 25 year window that regard TV so highly as that was when it was at it's peak; it's also those generations that have had to wait the longest to be able to indulge their interest; only now are we able to see the sort of programmes again that we dreamed of for 30 or 40 years. Thanks are due to the sterling work of companies such as Network (primarily). A comprehensive online archive seems like a dream but I wish that kind of access could have arrived 20 years earlier for our generations.
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