RWels
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Post by RWels on Dec 31, 2016 14:23:00 GMT
The Radio Times preview mentions how short some of the clips are? Could these be material found from the Australian censor? Which is short? They could just be the clips from an Australian promo reel, but those are not 9, I think only about 4 and 2 from existing episodes.
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Post by richardfitzgerald on Dec 31, 2016 15:13:22 GMT
The Radio Times preview mentions how short some of the clips are? Could these be material found from the Australian censor? Which is short? They could just be the clips from an Australian promo reel, but those are not 9, I think only about 4 and 2 from existing episodes. The preview doesn't give any more details unfortunately. But it does repeat the line about sketches "unseen for fifty years". I can only assume a small collection of early clips from the Aussie censor or a promo reel have been recovered and the programme is bulked out with the existing two Australian specials.
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Post by williammuirhead on Dec 31, 2016 22:36:38 GMT
With tear in either eye, it looks like once again my optimism was misplaced, at least according to chatter on the Kaleidoscope FB. Is anyone here able to provide a run down of what sketches were included/excerpted/stretched to 16:9 for a poor Colonial?
EDIT: No need, am watching now. Oh dear.
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Post by RWels on Jan 1, 2017 10:42:10 GMT
Darn I'm sorry to hear that. I'd have preferred to be wrong of course.
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Post by George D on Jan 1, 2017 19:33:41 GMT
Im in suspense.
What was there?
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Post by williammuirhead on Jan 2, 2017 0:21:42 GMT
Lots of quick clips from many sketches (a surprising number not only from existing episodes, but indeed those available on DVD), all shown in split-second bursts, stretched to 16:9 or shown on a TV monitor, usually covered with voice over.
As far as the 'new' stuff goes, it was indeed footage from the two Australian specials/promo for their visit to Oz, and the ABC trailer material. Celebs were shown reacting to bits of:
NOBA in Australia, Show 1: 'Pete and Dud: Customs', 'Colonel Bogey' and (sorta) 'One Leg Too Few'
NOBA in Australia, Show 2: 'Pete and Dud: At the Beach', 'Pseudolene', 'Bollard', 'Homeward Bound/Goodbyeee'
Some fairly intriguing 'behind the scenes' news footage showing the recording of 'Pete and Dud: Customs' and Cook doing his truly appalling Elvis impersonation on the 'Pseudolene' set, plus brief clips of a radio interview and meet-and-greet.
Australian promo sketch 'exclusive', 'Sir Arthur: Terminated Interview.'
NOBA Trailer Clips (basically whole, but often shot from behind Josie Lawrence's shoulder):
S01e05 'Pete and Dud on the Bus' (1min25sec, amusingly described in V/O as 'untransmitted for over 50 years', which must be a strange new euphemism for 'in the five weeks since The Undiscovered Peter Cook') S02e02 'Pete and Dud on Music' (1min25 sec, preceded by some establishing off-air audio, extremely funny indeed) S02e06 'Pete and Dud on Sex' (50 secs)
Which, if memory serves, is basically it for 'recovered material'. As I say, though, there's quite a lot of short clips from existing shows, some of which might not be immediately recognisable as they've sat in a BBC vault for fifty years.
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Post by williammuirhead on Jan 2, 2017 1:35:26 GMT
Don't know if this actually worth doing, but:
Just for anyone wondering EXACTLY what was dredged up from the vaults for this programme, I've just sped through again (something of a noble sacrifice) to compile the following list of inclusions from the BBC NOBA ONLY. The Australian contents are pretty thoroughly outlined in my post above.
Please note that some sketches were featured for no more than a few seconds ('Superstitions'), often without original sound, and several were excerpted from more than once. They are listed here in the order of their first appearance in the programme:
Pete and Dud: The Unexplained ('66 Christmas Special)/Pete and Dud: Superstitions (s01e06)/Pete and Dud: In Heaven (s02e07)/Aquatic Pianists Opening (s02e01)/Painting on Television (s01e02)/Initials (Old JJ) (s01e01)/London Bus Opening (s01e05)/Pete and Dud: Sex (s02e06)/The Making of a Movie (s03e07)/Swinging London: Rev. Gavin Thistle ('66 Christmas Special)/Pete and Dud: At the Zoo (s02e01)/Swinging London: Ad Lav Club('66 Christmas Special)/Pete and Dud: On the Bus (s01e05)/Pete and Dud: Art Gallery (s01e04)/Gypsy Violinist Opening (s01e04)/Aquatic Pianists Studio Intro-Cilla Black 'Let There Be Love' (s02e01)/A Bit of a Chat(s02e01)/Cinema Opening (s01e03)/Pete and Dud: A Spot of the Usual Trouble (s01e02)/Pete and Dud: Diseases (s02e02).
Goodbyeee Montage: Australian NOBA Show 2/s01e04/s01e02/s01e03/s02e07/s01e04/Australian NOBA Show 1/Australian NOBA Show 2
Sorry if I missed anything - I think this is basically complete.
EDIT: Ah, yes - there were a few clips from the 1964 BBC recording of 'Beyond the Fringe' as well. From memory, these were 'Royal Box' and 'Colonel Bogey', but there may have been another.
SECOND EDIT: Oh, and there was also a very brief clip from 'The Ravens' (s01e01), but bugger me if I can be bothered going back through to find out when it featured.
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Post by George D on Jan 2, 2017 4:18:37 GMT
Thanks now that we know what in the show, would be great to know if more has been found.
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Post by williammuirhead on Jan 2, 2017 6:41:11 GMT
Short answer is: none. The slightly more nuanced answer is: the documentary didn't feature any material we weren't already aware of.
The 'nine sketches' reported in the Guardian seem to be the three ABC trailer clips used in the prog ('On Sex/On the Bus/Diseases'), apparently found 'in a basement', plus six sketches taken from the Australian episodes.
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Post by John Green on Jan 2, 2017 14:04:31 GMT
Wot a swizz.
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Post by A Peel on Jan 7, 2017 9:55:01 GMT
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Post by williammuirhead on Jan 7, 2017 14:08:56 GMT
'Pete and Dud - The Unexplained' from the 26-12-66 Christmas Special. He's describing an uncommon occurrence on the Common, as I recall.
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Post by A Peel on Jan 7, 2017 14:15:42 GMT
Ah, thanks! I thought I'd recognised it but couldn't quite place it. The quality of the clip used in the program was much better than the dark, fuzzy copy that I've seen.
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Post by williammuirhead on Jan 7, 2017 14:19:57 GMT
I suspect I've seen the same copy - you're right, it was quite a revelation to see that clip in good quality, stretched aspect ratio and all!
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Post by richardlatto on Jan 9, 2017 10:30:36 GMT
Hello guys - I recently found this footage. Don't think it's been seen for 51 years? It was on South Today in 1966. Some behind the scenes bits and an interview with P&D from when they filmed their underwater piano sketch... www.facebook.com/BBCRadioSolent/videos/1185099368276823/I think the swimming pool was Worthing, hence the Worthing reference from Dudley Moore. I couldn't find the script for the piece with any further details. Hope it's of interest - I rather enjoyed their interview. Richard
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