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Post by George D on Jan 17, 2014 4:36:34 GMT
The other thing I find bizarre is 10 scattered prints are located and all are dupes.the 5 from season 6 was plausable as most of season 6 exists, but 10 scattered is a statistical unlikihood.
It makes me wonder if there is more behind the scenes.
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Post by Johnathan Molyneux on Jan 17, 2014 4:43:41 GMT
Agree scott ! One is a nice guy even if a little direct at times ! And the other a Bounty hunter ! Simple as that  I don't care if one is a bounty hunter as long as he brings back the bounty. But really we know very little of what is going on with Philip Morris and the BBC so I don't think it is fair to make assumptions about Philip Morris at the moment. Ian should back off a little with the whole I'd tell you now stuff. There will be a very interesting book to be written at some point though. One day instead of Missing Believed Wiped maybe we will have Found: Once Believed Wiped instead. |
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Post by StevePhillips on Jan 17, 2014 5:37:12 GMT
The other thing I find bizarre is 10 scattered prints are located and all are dupes.the 5 from season 6 was plausable as most of season 6 exists, but 10 scattered is a statistical unlikihood. I tend to agree with that. It seems rather unlikely that 10 episodes out of 10 would all be extant stuff. I also don't tend to go much for any "I knew I had Dr Whos all the time, I just didn't know the significance" stuff - never have. |
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Post by mattplace on Jan 17, 2014 6:09:03 GMT
The other thing I find bizarre is 10 scattered prints are located and all are dupes.the 5 from season 6 was plausable as most of season 6 exists, but 10 scattered is a statistical unlikihood. I tend to agree with that. It seems rather unlikely that 10 episodes out of 10 would all be extant stuff. I also don't tend to go much for any "I knew I had Dr Whos all the time, I just didn't know the significance" stuff - never have. As it seems to have been said, these new finds were boxed and stored, he may have had them for years without looking at them again. No everyone who collects films is a Who fan and i think its more than plausible that any collector could obtain a film and add it to their collection without doing any research as to its archive status... most could easily assume that if a print was available then the parent broadcaster would surely hold the original print. I hope more turn up from this new source. A complete season 6 (or eve 5 and 6) seems possible... Good work everyone involved |
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Post by shellyharman67 on Jan 17, 2014 6:35:48 GMT
Not the VIETCONG, The VIETCAN ? Don't be Vietcong be Vietright! Indeed so YU SHO MI PROOF |
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Post by shellyharman67 on Jan 17, 2014 6:36:36 GMT
Thanks Andy. This whole situation is bizarre. Who would have thought TWO copies of Enemy 6 would turn up. Anyone care to bet on a third within 6 months? ;-) Theres a game being played here between two heavyweights |
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Post by shellyharman67 on Jan 17, 2014 6:40:02 GMT
The other thing I find bizarre is 10 scattered prints are located and all are dupes.the 5 from season 6 was plausable as most of season 6 exists, but 10 scattered is a statistical unlikihood. It makes me wonder if there is more behind the scenes. This is truly weird is it not. People trying to make other people show their hands ? I think that Mr A Might know Mr B has Whatever ? And Mr B is being not straightforward should we say. |
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Post by shellyharman67 on Jan 17, 2014 6:44:57 GMT
Agree scott ! One is a nice guy even if a little direct at times ! And the other a Bounty hunter ! Simple as that I don't care if one is a bounty hunter as long as he brings back the bounty. But really we know very little of what is going on with Philip Morris and the BBC so I don't think it is fair to make assumptions about Philip Morris at the moment. Ian should back off a little with the whole I'd tell you now stuff. There will be a very interesting book to be written at some point though. One day instead of Missing Believed Wiped maybe we will have Found: Once Believed Wiped instead. Agree, but there is a game being played by one here. Its going the way i thought it might ! How would it look if say certain stories were returned by one, taking away the spotlight to the other one searching africa ? If one is sitting on power say, and the other one shows their hand with that story first it would be very embarrassing for the other ! |
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Post by Brad Phipps on Jan 17, 2014 7:32:05 GMT
Thanks Andy. This whole situation is bizarre. Who would have thought TWO copies of Enemy 6 would turn up. Anyone care to bet on a third within 6 months? ;-) I'm gonna remember this post. |
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Post by shellyharman67 on Jan 17, 2014 7:37:48 GMT
Thanks Andy. This whole situation is bizarre. Who would have thought TWO copies of Enemy 6 would turn up. Anyone care to bet on a third within 6 months? ;-) I'm gonna remember this post. You have to say because of the way some have played this with their denials that no one really believes it has resulted in this game of chess ! |
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Post by Marty Schultz on Jan 17, 2014 7:44:46 GMT
If it's not another enemy of the world then it will be web part 1.
;-)
These days it wouldn't suprise me to turn on my PC and see that three copies of Feast had been discovered in a volcano in Vanuatu.
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Post by shellyharman67 on Jan 17, 2014 7:47:52 GMT
If it's not another enemy of the world then it will be web part 1. ;-) These days it wouldn't suprise me to turn on my PC and see that three copies of Feast had been discovered in a volcano in Vanuatu. Anything is possible now. If copies were sent to a said country and were not shown would they still have to pay rights ? If not i would run off a few copies myself and sent to the troops  |
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Post by Marty Schultz on Jan 17, 2014 7:53:15 GMT
If it's not another enemy of the world then it will be web part 1. ;-) These days it wouldn't suprise me to turn on my PC and see that three copies of Feast had been discovered in a volcano in Vanuatu. Anything is possible now. If copies were sent to a said country and were not shown would they still have to pay rights ? If not i would run off a few copies myself and sent to the troops Without knowing the contract - no idea. I wouldn't be suprised at all if it was a clearance to broadcast in Australian or whomevers territories. This would include embassies and the antartic bases etc Though of course these could be illegal copies. No one knows. |
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Post by shellyharman67 on Jan 17, 2014 7:58:12 GMT
Anything is possible now. If copies were sent to a said country and were not shown would they still have to pay rights ? If not i would run off a few copies myself and sent to the troops Without knowing the contract - no idea. I wouldn't be suprised at all if it was a clearance to broadcast in Australian or whomevers territories. This would include embassies and the antartic bases etc Though of course these could be illegal copies. No one knows. This comes down to a lot of people saying this is officially what happened. When in fact they are very wrong it would seem. All things are possible Unless it is proved to be physically impossible then it is possible of course |
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Post by Neil Lambess on Jan 17, 2014 8:27:19 GMT
Gibraltar? Hmmm... I don't think it would be. My money's on them being sent over to Asia from Australia for the benefit of the Aussie troops serving in Nam. When the Aussies vacated, they left the films behind. This is where my money is. I think they were 'donated' to the troops as such- via a previously unknown (and technically illegal) duplication by the ABC. But as always the answer is probably going to be weirder than whatever we speculate. As I joked before perhaps it was the North Vietnamese. over the last 45 or so years anything and anyone could have got those prints there......... lots of british expats living around the world..... i can easilly see them shipping their own personal collection of 16mm over...... same for ex pat aussies, then theres the ex royal navy sailors who've told me they saw BBC shows on the onboard tv stations on the aircraft carriers...... (the 70s BBC doco "Salior " shows Ark royal IVs tv station in action (a variety concert for the captain from memory) (and its possible Sea devils turned up in the aluteian islands due to the RN assisting the BBC in its making and they have a naval base there..... although we have no hard evidence yet of the shows found in Taiwan having been sold or given to the armed forces of either the Uk or US , its possible that they could have been ,and the relevant paperwork hasnt been discovered yet..... (i wonder if, as both the UK armed forces and the BBC were "owned" by the crown , if they would even been regarded as "sales" ( would the goverment sell itself its own product? ) and therefore any evidence of any such purchase or gifting of material to the armed forces is in an entirely different set of paperwork (possibly also covered by military protocols ) (PURE speculation on my part of course.....but its possible hard evidence of any distribution to armed forces hasnt been found , because it may not be classifed as a commercial sale , and isnt in the sales records for that reason .? ) but........wow 21 ? recovered prints of who announced in the last few months and 9(technically 10 ) formally missing at this time last year ! who woulda thunk that  |
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