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Post by Rob Moss on Nov 8, 2013 12:34:48 GMT
Indeed - you have to get past the unlikely event of it being recorded in the first place, then the even more unlikely event of it not being recorded over, then the tape still existing, and then of course the tape being playable. So whilst it's technically possible, I'd be hugely surprised if it ever happens. |
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Post by garysrothwellx on Nov 8, 2013 12:36:58 GMT
There were plenty of super-rich people in the 60's who i am sure would have indulged their children, or themselves for that matter. It is not s unlikely as it seems. 1000 pounds is not really that much (sorry if that offends) if you are rich, or even modestly well off - look how many people buy PC upgrades for thousands.
Doesn't make it probable, but i just dont think its as unlikley as the Radio Times states.
If I had the chance to record something just the once from a favourite band or a favourite TV programme - would i take it, even if it cost 1000? I'd love to say "No, course i wouldnt, dont be stupid". Fact of the matter is, I'd probably say yes.... and people havent changed that much!!
PS - I am not rich enough to discard 1000 without consideration by the way.
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Post by Rob Moss on Nov 8, 2013 12:37:45 GMT
Interesting, a possibility - but not impossible.. Well yes, VTRs were available for domestic use from the early 60s, so in theory any missing episode of anything from that time onwards could potentially turn up on a domestic recording. Probably not a good idea to hold your breath waiting for anything specific though. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2013 12:43:54 GMT
Yes, whatever else turns up (or doesn't), The Feast Of Steven is the single DW episode I'm not expecting at all!  |
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Post by JOHN SMITH on Nov 8, 2013 14:30:32 GMT
If one could afford a VTR in the 60's, and I'm presuming that as well as the tapes, these were also extremely expensive given inflation. (Probably running into the thousands of pounds). That with all due respect, the mere price of tapes would have been pocket change to such people. @ Laurence Piper If ep 7 doesn't interfere with the overall story (and I have no clue as I wasn't even born then) then I don't think people will be too bothered if the other parts ever turn up without it. It was offered to Australia as an 11 parter, therefore I presume ep 7 didn't matter a jot. |
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Post by James Anderson on Nov 8, 2013 14:34:54 GMT
This is fantastic news DMP is a great story so does this mean collectors have had these episodes for decades and now they want to cash in ??
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2013 15:52:53 GMT
If ep 7 doesn't interfere with the overall story (and I have no clue as I wasn't even born then) then I don't think people will be too bothered if the other parts ever turn up without it. It was offered to Australia as an 11 parter, therefore I presume ep 7 didn't matter a jot. No, it was pretty self-contained to be designed as a Christmas episode. It's like a kind of "pause" from the main story for one week. |
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Post by simonashby on Nov 8, 2013 16:02:25 GMT
This is fantastic news DMP is a great story so does this mean collectors have had these episodes for decades and now they want to cash in ?? Have you actually read this thread? There is no news in this thread. It's all clearly aimless speculation and hypothetical theories, yet suddenly that makes it all true! |
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Post by Patrick Coles on Nov 8, 2013 16:06:02 GMT
As I recall the whole style of 'The Feast of Steven' differed notably from DMP, as it was much lighter, even a bit slapstick, unlike the DMP which is one of the darkest tales of Hartnell's era - the DMP went onto 'hold' for a week while the Xmas day episode went out with Hartnell 'toasting the viewers' and next episode it was back into the DMP as if the Xmas episode had not occurred !
back then both BBC & ITV used to have a 'Xmas with the stars' show with sketches from well known TV shows - comedy & drama - acting out a Xmas scenario (I remember Harry Worth's one well) while a ITV drama like 'Callan' even once crossed with a comedy 'Father Dear Father' - Edward Woodward & Russell Hunter (as 'Callan' & 'Lonely') turn up at the home of Patrick Glover (Patrick Cargill) & his two daughters by mistake...in a witty Xmas themed scenario of about 15 minutes...
Dr.Who's Xmas story; 'The Feast of Steven' was done a bit like that, to blend in with the festive tone...
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Post by John Wall on Nov 8, 2013 16:16:36 GMT
This is fantastic news DMP is a great story so does this mean collectors have had these episodes for decades and now they want to cash in ?? What news ? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2013 16:59:55 GMT
I think he means "rumour". The two words seem to somehow get transposed in the DW world quite a bit! |
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Post by mikeberke on Nov 8, 2013 18:04:31 GMT
In the past, have any episodes ever turned up from domestic recording? Or is the whole idea still just a theory?
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Post by Bobby Clark (synthpopalooza) on Nov 8, 2013 18:55:55 GMT
There was one. But it was an already-existing episode of the Space Pirates (part two), and it had degraded to the point where it was unrecoverable anyway.
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Post by richardwoods on Nov 8, 2013 19:05:32 GMT
I presume that the old chestnut about William Hartnell having a 16mm print of The Feast of Stephen run off specially for his own use at home has been completely debunked?
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Post by zachbrannigan on Nov 8, 2013 19:26:22 GMT
Who knows in whose hands it may have ended up...? I actually don't think this is out of the question. The colloquialism "something like that you don't just throw away" applies. Its less likely with video tape because it can be reused, but a lot of film prints may have gone for a walk, especially significant ones. TP4 I think is a good example. Its the last Hartnell episode, and shows the regeneration sequence of the first two Doctors. IMHO, someone snagged it, and not out of a sincere desire to preserve the material. When the moment is right and its value is at a high point, it will turn up. This is especially true of the original owner is dead. They may have been a fan who thought no one would miss it and they'd hang on to it as a memento, but their descendant may not care about it except for its monetary value. Hell, if they're young, they may well sit on it another 50 years until the copyright lapses into public domain and they can profit for themselves. This may be the case with WoF3, too. One episode goes missing out of two complete serials that were kept together on a shelf in an archive at a TV station? Smells fishy. If it wasn't recovered but unviewable, someone who knew what it was (and that the people who were looking for it were close to finding it) grabbed a random episode on their way out the door and never looked back. |
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