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Post by Simon Mclean on Aug 21, 2005 22:57:31 GMT
Not really fair to pin the blame on Terry Henebery, Simon. Oops - didn't mean to sound like I was, I think that sentence came out rather harsher than I intended it to! I think I may have read that Terry H insisted on them being done on 35mm for preservation purposes rather than technical reasons, and I was probably suggesting I wished a few DTs had been kept in the same way - obviously I wasn't right; that's what you get for believing the internet! Great interview, by the way - am looking forward to the book! Was the car crash in Montreux around the same time as the live Dee Time special from there in 1968? That would've been quite interesting to see - the Dee Time, that is, not the car crash (ahem!) As for Dee being a hopeless interviewer - well, I think he comes across rather well on screen, but he was a ripe target for satire, with Benny Hill's Tommy Tupper being a particularly accurate send-up. Didn't Round The Horne have a Dee-a-like too?
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Post by lfbarfe on Aug 22, 2005 10:00:57 GMT
Oops - didn't mean to sound like I was, I think that sentence came out rather harsher than I intended it to! I think I may have read that Terry H insisted on them being done on 35mm for preservation purposes rather than technical reasons, and I was probably suggesting I wished a few DTs had been kept in the same way - obviously I wasn't right; that's what you get for believing the internet! Great interview, by the way - am looking forward to the book! So am I. Way behind with it, but it'll be worth it. Yes. 27/4/68 wasn't it? That was TH's last show as producer, and the Times of 30/4/68 is reporting him as being in hospital in Switzerland with a broken collarbone and a dislocated hip. Well no, seeing as three people died. Quite possibly, although the main interviewer lamp00ned by RTH was obviously Eamonn Andrews.
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Post by lfbarfe on Aug 22, 2005 10:02:44 GMT
Apologies for the strange spelling of lamp00ned above. The strange anti-profanity filter here turns "p00n" (when spelt properly) into "thingy". For frak's sake.
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Post by William M on Aug 22, 2005 14:13:23 GMT
perhaps it had a bad experience in East Asia?
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Post by Simon Mclean on Aug 22, 2005 21:35:30 GMT
Well no, seeing as three people died. Ooh, nasty - I do seem to be putting my foot in it here......better stop before I offend anyone else. April '68 sounds right for the Montreux spesh - it gets a mention in the Simon Dee book, though that still namechecks TH as producer, so presumably said book was published between series. If I remember rightly, I think the RTH Dee spoof was in the Mortimer/Cooke era - a sort of updated Seamus Android, as it were.
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Post by David Boothroyd on Aug 27, 2005 18:42:59 GMT
Curious errrr "archiving ploicy", Lord Arran and Peter Sarstedt clips kept... The Earl of Arran ('Boofy' to his friends) was a pretty unusual guy though. He had just piloted the legalising of gay sex through the House of Lords and was then campaigning to help animals. He once said that he "wanted to stop people badgering buggers, and stop people buggering badgers". I don't suppose the infamous Simon Dee interview with George Lazenby on the LWT variation has even survived in sound only.
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Post by lfbarfe on Aug 30, 2005 0:05:22 GMT
The Earl of Arran ('Boofy' to his friends) was a pretty unusual guy though. He had just piloted the legalising of gay sex through the House of Lords and was then campaigning to help animals. He once said that he "wanted to stop people badgering buggers, and stop people buggering badgers". Wasn't he also a columnist for the Evening News? I seem to remember reading some of his stuff in an anthology of journalism and finding it rather good.
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Post by BizMark on Aug 30, 2005 20:58:26 GMT
Doesn't part of a November 1969 edition with Clodagh Rogers guesting exist, (i.e. her performance) from the BBC-1 "first week of colour" telerecording?
...and was that bit only recorded because the guy operating the film recording unit wanted to be able to study Miss Rogers' legs? I wouldn't blame him if he did...
Sounds a bit like the apocryphal story of an HTV engineer (IIRC) who was slow-mo/pausing an advert in which a lady's undergarments could either be seen or seen through for one or two frames in an advert, and that it transpired his 'jog and shuttle' action was on the air.
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Post by lfbarfe on Aug 31, 2005 10:03:02 GMT
Doesn't part of a November 1969 edition with Clodagh Rogers guesting exist, (i.e. her performance) from the BBC-1 "first week of colour" telerecording? A Clodagh Rodgers clip certainly exists, with Dee introducing her from a chair held in a strongman's mouth. Was it from that late in the run? I don't know about that, but I do know that the chap who preserved the Hendrix Lulu Show clip, etc, was also one hell of a Pan's People fan.
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Post by Laurence Piper on Aug 31, 2005 13:16:25 GMT
Doesn't part of a November 1969 edition with Clodagh Rogers guesting exist, (i.e. her performance) from the BBC-1 "first week of colour" telerecording? The Clodagh Rogers clip is from the 26/7/69 b/w edition. Although Dee Time ran into the start of the colour era by a few weeks, I don't know if it "went over" or not. Does anyone?
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Post by WilliamM on Aug 31, 2005 15:54:57 GMT
Doesn't part of a November 1969 edition with Clodagh Rogers guesting exist, (i.e. her performance) from the BBC-1 "first week of colour" telerecording? The Clodagh Rogers clip is from the 26/7/69 b/w edition. Although Dee Time ran into the start of the colour era by a few weeks, I don't know if it "went over" or not. Does anyone? if you mean was it in colour, then yes the last few were, but LF Barfe's your man there
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Post by Laurence Piper on Aug 31, 2005 21:45:39 GMT
Yes, I mean BBC-1 went over to colour in November and Dee Time lasted till the end of December. Not everything previously in b/w went colour at that time though and as Dee Time was almost finished by then, I was wondering if they bothered switching it over at such a late stage in it's life.
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Post by lfbarfe on Sept 1, 2005 1:02:09 GMT
Not everything previously in b/w went colour at that time though and as Dee Time was almost finished by then, I was wondering if they bothered switching it over at such a late stage in it's life. The answer is that they indeed did. The show, by then just entitled 'Simon Dee', was in colour from 15/11/1969 to the end of its run. The show began in studio A at Manchester on 4/4/67 (rec: 27/3/67), moving to studio G at Lime Grove when it went from two shows (Tues and Thurs) to one show (Saturday) a week on 23/9/67. It stayed there until 6/1/69 when it moved to Golder's Green. Back to Lime Grove G from 29/3/69, a one-off excursion to TC4 on 19/4/69, a move to D at Lime Grove from 18/9/69, back to G from 1/11/69, then to Golder's Green on 15/11/69, for the first day of colour. For the last month of the run it came variously from TC7, TC8 and the Television Theatre. Terry Henebery produced from the start to 27/4/68, Colin Charman took over from 4/5/68 to 7/9/68, then Roger Ordish 14/9/68 to 3/5/69, and finally Richard Drewett from 10/5/69 to the end of the run (although Henebery did one of the last shows, if not the last).
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Post by Mark Boulton on Apr 30, 2006 22:03:45 GMT
Whether or not Clodagh's appearance was in a July or November '69 show, the transfer to TR was quite obviously done during November as it definitely forms part of that 'first week in colour' reel. The reel consists of continuity, promos and announcements linking into the first minute or so of the shows being linked into/from, followed by sync-rolls to the end of the programme concerned and the next piece of continuity.
I haven't watched it for a while, but I seem to remember there isn't a link in TO Dee Time, but after the Clodagh clip there is a sync roll just after from that clip to the continuity following later in the same recording roll. If I can find where I left the DVD I will try to check my facts a bit more carefully.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2006 7:55:43 GMT
The 17/11/69 BBC-1 continuity isn't connected to the Clodagh Rodgers Dee Time appearance though; they are from different transmission dates. No idea if both items are on the same reel in the archive though. Andrew Martin will probably be able to tell you.
BTW, does anyone know why those 17/11/69 continuity links were recorded (if the whole evening wasn't also kept as an example of early colour programming, why just record these bits - and only in b/w too)? Just very curious!
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