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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Jun 18, 2012 13:28:32 GMT
It's documented on here that I and others have HARANGUED various people at the BEEB about archive footage with a small amount of success.
So what of ITV?
They have a huge archive, but precious little ever gets shown - and FOUR channels, just like the Beeb.
It's time to attack the sleeping giant....
Any contacts you can think that would deserve my attention, please let me know by PM or here. ;D
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Post by Paul Watkins on Jun 18, 2012 16:20:04 GMT
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Jun 18, 2012 23:22:48 GMT
Thank you for that Paul.
I find it ironic that the Beeb - who don't get me wrong are far from perfect, but at least do listen - get hassle all the time, but there is much great music within ITN Source that we never get to see!
Even if it was 10% as good as the Beeb, they still don't even get 10% of the attention.
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Post by markg on Jun 19, 2012 8:36:21 GMT
Judging by Keith Badman's page in Record Collector, loads of shows and stuff are still in ITV archives around the country, but will they ever get shown again?
Not until they set up a BBC4 type channel. ITV4 could do it, but they prefer showing Sweeney / Professionals / Batman type stuff ad infinitum. OK, they did do "The Prisoner", but it's more or less like someone that has an extensive collection of old DVD box sets, really.
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Jun 19, 2012 8:55:21 GMT
I may email Keith to see if he knows any good contacts.
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Post by Bob Savage (robstar) on Jun 19, 2012 9:15:20 GMT
Of course the old Granada + use to show stuff from the archive, I remember them showing "Marc" Supersonic" Doin' Their Thing" and "Shang-a- Lang" a few years ago. So it looks like they did include music items in their programming but decided to change policy when they set up ITV 1,2,3 & 4
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Jun 19, 2012 9:18:56 GMT
I'd be happy if they put ANYTHING out on TV from the archives, musically speaking. pretty much nothing since Granada Plus. I hereby offer myself as archive consultant if anyone at ITV's watching....  |
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Jun 19, 2012 13:11:11 GMT
I'd be happy if they put ANYTHING out on TV from the archives, musically speaking. pretty much nothing since Granada Plus. I hereby offer myself as archive consultant if anyone at ITV's watching.... There's a bit of movement on the ITV front already. CAN'T AND WON'T divulge details (SORRY), but two people have contacted me and....looks good ;D (!!!!), but we wait....these things take time. |
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Post by Mark Tinkler on Jun 20, 2012 18:10:20 GMT
Elm Street Media are looking through their materials at the moment - I know, becuase I am part of the process! No news as to what might happen to it but will let you know when news does emerge...
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Post by Mark Tinkler on Jun 22, 2012 11:00:19 GMT
straight from the horse's mouth - I'd be in contact with ITV about a series totally devoted to ITV archive for a few weeks, which Ray knew about, but just had this response:
"We do very little archive based content and all we DO do is generally a spin-off of something current ie The Corrie years, The Betty Driver Story.
The other problem is that, aside from the big entertainment shows, music (and in particular archive driven content) is rather specialist and therefore not suited to a broad mainstream ITV1 audience.
Finally, notwithstanding the points above, there is nothing substantial to hook a series like this on/around. Even something as big as the death of Amy Winehouse only found a home on ITV2, rather than ITV1, last year. So it would be almost impossible to convince my bosses that this idea could fine space on ITV1."
No surprises really - ITV are all about the profit & loss account and viewer numbers & breakdown, the fact that the BBC can do archive programmes is a combination of always being one organisation with a recognised heritage abd being a public service broadcaster.
Maybe things will change - I know there's a re-branding of the ITV digital channels coming up - maybe one day they will have the ITV ARCHIVE channel...
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Jun 22, 2012 11:55:53 GMT
straight from the horse's mouth - I'd be in contact with ITV about a series totally devoted to ITV archive for a few weeks, which Ray knew about, but just had this response: "We do very little archive based content and all we DO do is generally a spin-off of something current ie The Corrie years, The Betty Driver Story. The other problem is that, aside from the big entertainment shows, music (and in particular archive driven content) is rather specialist and therefore not suited to a broad mainstream ITV1 audience. Finally, notwithstanding the points above, there is nothing substantial to hook a series like this on/around. Even something as big as the death of Amy Winehouse only found a home on ITV2, rather than ITV1, last year. So it would be almost impossible to convince my bosses that this idea could fine space on ITV1." No surprises really - ITV are all about the profit & loss account and viewer numbers & breakdown, the fact that the BBC can do archive programmes is a combination of always being one organisation with a recognised heritage abd being a public service broadcaster. Maybe things will change - I know there's a re-branding of the ITV digital channels coming up - maybe one day they will have the ITV ARCHIVE channel...
Thank you Mark, I kept schtum as promised.Forum members of a sensitive nature should look away now in regard to my comment below about ITV.A##eholes.  I'll will comment further with ideas when I have regained my composure. |
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Post by markg on Jun 22, 2012 12:03:47 GMT
Well, it doesn't *need* to be on ITV1
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Jun 22, 2012 13:03:33 GMT
Well, it doesn't *need* to be on ITV1 I completely agree! |
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Post by Mark Tinkler on Jun 22, 2012 13:28:40 GMT
I did say it could be made/shown on any of ITV channels and easily repeatable to boot...
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Post by markg on Jun 22, 2012 13:47:03 GMT
Yes, I was replying to the 'reply', regds.
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