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Post by Stuart Douglas on Dec 11, 2011 17:24:58 GMT
Seems nobody has mentioned the announcement at the Missing Believed Wiped event today that single episodes of Galaxy Four (ep3) and Underwater Menace (ep2) have now been returned to the archive!
Best Xmas Present Ever!
Stuart
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Post by Richard Hall on Dec 11, 2011 17:36:04 GMT
Seems nobody has mentioned the announcement at the Missing Believed Wiped event today that single episodes of Galaxy Four and Underwater Menace have now been returned to the archive! Best Xmas Present Ever! Stuart That's because everyone is over at the thread on Gallifrey Base, frantically hitting F5... Bloody fantastic news, and shows that people can't give up - there are still prints out there.
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Post by Stuart Douglas on Dec 11, 2011 17:37:54 GMT
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Post by Bernie King on Dec 11, 2011 17:58:42 GMT
Christmas has indeed come early this year. Well done and thank you to all those involved in the recovery. Can we get the number down below 100? This is just the sort of news to spur each other on. Talk to anyone and lets see what we can do. I can't wait to see them. Good luck to everyone involved in the search in 2012. Splendid chaps (and chapesses) all of you
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Post by David Robinson on Dec 11, 2011 18:00:20 GMT
Great news!!! Two in one go!!! Unbelievable!!!
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Post by gregbakun on Dec 11, 2011 18:00:50 GMT
It's funny that ever since I wrote my article on the Missing Episodes of Doctor Who there has been a discovery of a lost Dosney animated short and now these 2 episodes of Doctor Who. Just kidding. This is news I never expected to hear again. We get to see Rills!!! I can't wait to hear the story behind the recovery. Anyway, blog updated not that I have any information no one else has. from-the-archive.blogspot.com/
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Post by Bobby Clark (synthpopalooza) on Dec 11, 2011 18:23:23 GMT
Full story now here: www.radiotimes.com/news/2011-12-11/doctor-who-two-long-lost-episodes-uncoveredIt turns out a film collector had these all these years, showed them to some friends in the 80's, and all were none the wiser these were missing. Interestingly enough, part three of Underwater Menace was an Australian print ... this means it was censored, but apparently all the censored bits existed prior to the recovery ... so one can expect the Restoration Team to match these back together. The really exciting find for me is Galaxy 4. I have always wanted to see this story but until now had to make do with the Loose Cannon recon ... now we have a full episode to go with it.
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Post by gregbakun on Dec 11, 2011 18:53:06 GMT
My question is this. Is this discovery from a different source than the people who had the redundant print of The Roman's episode?
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Post by Douglas Wulf on Dec 11, 2011 19:12:13 GMT
This is delightful news.
What would be even more delightful would be a box set of The Crusade and Galaxy 4 with the five missing episodes animated and a box set of The Underwater Menace and The Moonbase with the four missing episodes animated.
Three of these four stories have no more missing footage than The Reign of Terror (two episodes each). Galaxy 4 is still missing three full episodes, but we have about 8 minutes of the first episode to use as a guide, which would mean that making an animated version of that episode would be easier.
Also, there are telesnaps for the Underwater Menace and Moonbase episodes that would be helpful. This was not the case for animating missing episodes of The Invasion and The Reign of Terror.
Lastly, there would obviously be visual references for the end of Galaxy 4 episode 2 and the start of Galaxy 4 episode 4 and the other beginnings and endings of neighboring episodes. This is not the case for stories that are missing in full.
The only other stories with just one, two, or three missing episodes are Mission to the Unknown (1, but a special case given that it links with The Daleks' Masterplan), The Tenth Planet (1), The Ice Warriors (2), and The Celestial Toymaker (3). All others have four or more missing segments, so it would be a bigger job to fill in the gaps with animation.
What is also nice is that these two Troughton stories are in direct sequence and that these two Hartnell stories are also near to one another in the story sequence and have a full run of existing episodes between them. Thus, filling in the gaps with animation would allow for more than one story to be viewed in broadcast sequence.
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Post by Greg H on Dec 11, 2011 19:31:02 GMT
Im actually so happy I am crying.
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Post by Anthony Harvison on Dec 11, 2011 19:58:41 GMT
This is excellent news!!!! ;D
Put that in your pipe, B Thomas!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2011 20:53:29 GMT
This is just brilliant news. It still puzzles me when they say oh wiped. i strongly suggest and always will say that someone knew that footage was going to be wiped and so someone smuggled out lost of stuff not just doctor who.The hunt continues and maybe ther are so many other film collectors that do have other episodes as suspected.well done to all and to the guy who kept them and returned them for all thank you so much.
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Post by Chris Gilbert on Dec 11, 2011 23:04:06 GMT
Brilliant news.
Last week I told a friend that after 8 years since DMP 2 turned up I now believed there were no more to be found.
This has blown that out of the water. Thankfully.
Not one, but TWO episodes! And one of each Doctor.
Just brilliant. I cannot express how good this is.
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Post by Robert Manners on Dec 11, 2011 23:23:14 GMT
My question is this. Is this discovery from a different source than the people who had the redundant print of The Roman's episode? From what I have read on both source/finds they are indeed, plus the original collector of the Roman's episode had been dead for ten years while film collector Terry Burnett was at the screening today in London.
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Post by Leighton Haberfield on Dec 12, 2011 0:10:04 GMT
Ironic that so much effort to check tv vaults abroad and 2 eps are in Hampshire. What a lovely man Terry is, we chatted quite a bit today and as a fan I explained the full significance of what he has done to fandom and the search for missing tv in general. He seemed humbled and he is now going to go through his old contacts list just in case he can give us some other leads. heres hoping By the way, both prints were in pretty good condition and how lovely to see Troughton play the recorder!
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