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Post by John S Miller on Mar 21, 2007 23:12:10 GMT
Just to say, in addenda I see 'Golden silents' has aready been mentioned in an alternative spelling which I didn't pick up on before.
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Post by Ant Harvison - WIPED NEWS on Mar 22, 2007 19:23:13 GMT
I've just checked the Kaleidoscope's Lostshows database and it lists Tickertape (1968) as totally missing. The other show 'Golden Silents' is not listed.
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Post by johnstewart on May 2, 2007 22:38:51 GMT
It does seem odd in those days ITV (isn't 'Tickertape' LWT ?); showed BBC clips. Mind you if it was on this looks as if we may never know either way.
I'm surprised at the absence of 'Golden Silents' as I thought Bob was the presenter and it was on film stock; unless he obtained the reels post transmission.
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Post by hartley967 on May 3, 2007 9:52:37 GMT
It does seem odd in those days ITV (isn't 'Tickertape' LWT ?); showed BBC clips. Mind you if it was on this looks as if we may never know either way. I'm surprised at the absence of 'Golden Silents' as I thought Bob was the presenter and it was on film stock; unless he obtained the reels post transmission. The Golden Silents was a BBC series presented by Michael Bentine circa 1969. Bob presented Mad Movies circa 1965 an independent series for ABC uk vive la difference The Golden Silents was a more sedentary show with MB just sitting in the national film theatre discussiing old films with an audience and guests. Mad Movies was more locational & physical , Bob would visit where Charlie Chaplin was born or the monkey house at the zoo to explain a gag for exmple- even using monkey house as a gag on his own name. |
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Post by johnstewart on May 8, 2007 0:24:33 GMT
It does seem odd in those days ITV (isn't 'Tickertape' LWT ?); showed BBC clips. Mind you if it was on this looks as if we may never know either way. I'm surprised at the absence of 'Golden Silents' as I thought Bob was the presenter and it was on film stock; unless he obtained the reels post transmission. The Golden Silents was a BBC series presented by Michael Bentine circa 1969. Bob presented Mad Movies circa 1965 an independent series for ABC uk vive la difference The Golden Silents was a more sedentary show with MB just sitting in the national film theatre discussiing old films with an audience and guests. Mad Movies was more locational & physical , Bob would visit where Charlie Chaplin was born or the monkey house at the zoo to explain a gag for exmple- even using monkey house as a gag on his own name. Ahhh! Thanks very much for this Hartley! |
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Post by Adrian Gregg on May 8, 2007 0:58:57 GMT
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Post by hartley967 on May 8, 2007 9:26:49 GMT
probably not as Bob supposedly kept his own set?. Dick Fiddy knows the answer to that one can anybody see D Bowie's 'ashes to ashes' in that second picture ------------ also thank you Johnstewart |
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Post by johnstewart on May 14, 2007 23:05:59 GMT
I wanted to add this also as I've been combing over some of my notes on Bob Monkhouses work recently.
Notes passed on re; THE GOLDEN SHOT. Apparently it began 8.7.67, when Canadian Jackie rae - who I didn't recall at all; presented it.
Bob Monkhouse guest starred as a comedy act on 12.8.67. Presumably this was the one off he referred to in one of his books where Johnny Vivyan (Des O Connor show) acted as stooge. The intention was to guage audience reaction to Monkhouse on that show as Rae wanted to move on; or retire; at that stage and ATV were seeking a replacement host. He stated in the book that he was asking the department to telerecord his performance specifically to show to Lew Grade. Bruce Forsyth later recounted how stars including himself, would often push to try and get their live appearances recorded off air when resources for such genres were limited.
Monkhouse apparently became regular host on 14.10.67; though the earliest I recall him in the London area, and the show, was Spring 1968. The show was originally transmitted regionally though. This is the earliest period from which a Monkhouse example is held by a central archive; c. April 1968 in the NFAs collection. The original 'golden girls' were carol Dilworth, Anita Richardson and Andrea Lloyd. As with later shows (Una Stetgard and Anne Aston) sometimes they alternated between each other on the same shows.
Apparently Dave Clark appeared with Dave Clark Five on 21.10.67. He was rumoured to have tried to keep all his TV appearances (hence an existing 1970 TOTP oddment); but it's not clear whether ITC enterprises were recording or transferring every edition to T - R then for export sales. It is known that the 1971 edition repeated on cable was an ITC enterprises print so it must have been being sold abroad by that stage anyway.
Apparently it was supposed to be the earliest game show transmitted in colour which suggests 1968, though I thought the 'Live from Birmingham' period from 1969 onwards was more likely.
There was a long thread somewhere about Philips off airs from the last Monkhouse (return) (Wei - Wei Wong) period 1974 - 75. I know he stated at Missing believed Wiped c. 93 - 94 a batch of editions were being returned which pushed the official number of surviving editions (across himself, Vaughan and Williams); from 5 to 20.
When I wrote to ITC in the early 1990s, only one edition from Charlie Williams was known though I understand there are several and Monkhouse himself referred to 'a couple of Charlie Williams shows' in various interviews. Someone also a T - R of his last show though he seemed to say he wasn't aware it had been recorded (presumably at the time); but also he hadn't seen it since the time. But from Bobs point of view this might have been quick thinking as he had all that palava with the police raiding him years ago after complaints from greedy multi nationals; after which it was said not all of his collection was returned.
The clip in question was where all the previous presenters come back on and sing a song together with him. After this a friend recalled from the time that Bob had been presented with a 16mm can of the show 'though obviously he was delighted only at the idea as the show was still going out and couldn't be in the can already'. This had arisen after TV Weeklys continued claims on successive showings that 'no Bob Monkhouse editions of the show could be found' (necessitating Williams clips); (also that 'no Jess Yates STARS ON SUNDAY' could be found); 2 exist - poor research!
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Post by hartley967 on May 20, 2007 15:52:33 GMT
iirc
ATV was up and running with its new brum studios around June 69, but they were officially opened in early 70
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Post by LanceM on May 21, 2007 0:13:09 GMT
I saw a episode of Mad Movie series on 16mm film on ebay ( US ) last week. It looked to be in good condition, and looked like it was indeed a funny comedy show.
Lance.
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