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Post by lfbarfe on Jan 11, 2010 23:09:37 GMT
If anyone wants to do anything at EMI, I'd do it as soon as soon as possible while it's still there... Whatever happens to the company, the archive should be safe, theoretically, as it's run by a separate trust. Emphasis on 'should' and 'theoretically'. What I can guarantee is that any video tapes they do have will be very well looked after. I know they had all of the Picture Music International masters at Hayes in 2002, but more than that I can't say with any confidence. Bear in mind that back catalogues of tapes (i.e. all the master recordings) aren't necessarily uinder the same umbrella or even building as the paper or "other" archive... Indeed not, but at EMI, they are, all in temperature-controlled storage at the Central Research Laboratory complex in Hayes - tapes, discs, correspondence, recording sheets, the lot.
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Post by johnstewart on Jan 16, 2010 19:24:23 GMT
Thanks Thomas. I thought it was an EMI promo but wasn't sure. Looks like it was shot by video on to film though as it has like a telerecorded look to it. That clip is 100% video-to-film transfer, not shot on film. I, too, had assumed it was from a TV show of some kind. Don't know if it's been mentioned this time round; but the main copy is held as part of the 'Old Grey Whistle Test' production material Archive. It was used on a July 1972 edition which went out live as the series did for most of the first three series. Apart from one of two tracks in the case of Jim Croce and Roxy Music and some filmfinders films, all the inserts relating to Whistle Test editions were kept. This was justified by the first overview Xmas show in 1972. That promo does look like VT transferred to colour T/R. And the fish eye lens does make it look like 'Russell Harty Plus' or something.
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Post by davemachin on Jan 17, 2010 15:47:57 GMT
Thanks John. This is very probably the copy I have seen. Is it's use in Whistle Test the only reason it exists or do the record company hold a film print or master in addition?
Dave
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Post by johnstewart on Jan 17, 2010 21:01:10 GMT
Thanks John. This is very probably the copy I have seen. Is it's use in Whistle Test the only reason it exists or do the record company hold a film print or master in addition? Dave The last time I took part in a discussion it was put forward that probably the access from the BBC copy was the only known channel. Compilers could also have used the ITV material for the song which exists though; a version live exists on 'set of six' Granada' and a mimed take on LWTs 'two Gs and the pop people'.
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Post by Thomas Walsh on Jan 18, 2010 8:21:06 GMT
Thanks John. This is very probably the copy I have seen. Is it's use in Whistle Test the only reason it exists or do the record company hold a film print or master in addition? Dave The last time I took part in a discussion it was put forward that probably the access from the BBC copy was the only known channel. Compilers could also have used the ITV material for the song which exists though; a version live exists on 'set of six' Granada' and a mimed take on LWTs 'two Gs and the pop people'. The "2 G's And The Pop People" edition is an historical moment in the story of E.L.O. Firstly John, the version of '10538 Overture' on the said show is hugely truncated (down from 4.30 to 2.20??) so it's use, though historical, would have been slightly dissapointing. Historical.....why I hear you probably not ask..? Well on the very same edition of "2 G's.." 'The Move' performed 'California Man' (their final hurrah and also edited for inclusion in this show) with Roy Wood in the line-up of course, but between the recording of 'The Move' track and the 'E.L.O' one Roy left the band!! You can see Jeff is ultra-nervous on "2 G's.." (his first 'up front on his own' performance, plus he sings Roy's parts through clenched teeth!) Do you know of any other band who were morphing from one incarnation to the other, were booked to appear as both bands on the one show and then split up in between both performances.....?? ;D Strange days indeed..... T.
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Post by David smothers on Feb 27, 2010 1:55:15 GMT
Yes, in fact, several record companies did do this. I know for a fact that Motown did this, A recent Supremes DVD release contained a performance from the Mike Douglas Show that was wiped orignally, but Motown had a good, clean print of it in their archives... and this is it: www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO4jMVfbOiY
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