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Post by Jeff Stone on Dec 29, 2005 14:55:59 GMT
Apparently, there's a scene in the Beatles movie Let It Be where the Fabs watch science fiction on the telly. Could what they are watching be a missing DW episode? Probably not, as I believe that all the eps broadcast in January 1969 still exist, but what the hell. Maybe it's something else that's missing.
I'd check, but for some reason Apple won't release Let It Be on DVD. No, they decided we all wanted to see an hour of Ravi Shankar tuning up in The Concert For Bangladesh instead.
Bitter, me? Nahhhh.
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Post by David Ward on Dec 29, 2005 17:00:00 GMT
Hi, noobie, first post. There are plenty of Bealtes historians who could probably tell you what day scene that was filmed on.
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Post by B Thomas on Dec 29, 2005 22:44:28 GMT
Who knows? Maybe it's an episode of "Out of the Unknown"? (3 episodes are missing from the January 1969 transmissions: "Imortality Inc.", "Liar" & "Beachhead").
Having said that, with our luck the thing they are watching is more likely to be "The Last Lonely Man" - the only episode from Series 3 (1969) that DOES exist...
...that is, if the thing they are watching is OOTU at all...
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Post by Matthew North on Dec 30, 2005 11:56:13 GMT
the let it be film was made between the 1st and 29th jan 1969
matt
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Post by Russell Cleaver on Jan 2, 2006 19:53:31 GMT
I was lucky enough to interview Sir Paul McCartney a few years back and during our informal chat afterwards, he happened to mention that all of the Beatles and a number of their friends had 'video machines' in the 60's. They used to get associates to record tv programmes for them and watch them at Paul's house (near to Abbey Road studios) after a session. One programme he happened to mention was Doctor Who. I asked him if he still had the machine and any of the tapes and he said he didn't think so, but added 'Ringo is the hoarder'! I sat within sight of Mr Starr at a film premiere not long afterwards, but couldn't bring myself to go up and ask the question!
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Post by LanceM on Jan 2, 2006 21:46:47 GMT
So, maybe someone in authority should contact Ringo, that sounds rather promising. That is if he still posesses those tapes from 40 years ago.
Lance.
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Post by Johnny 23 on Jan 3, 2006 14:02:20 GMT
In another capacity, I've looked at a *lot* of Let It Be (aka "Get Back") stuff and there's no Who in there... even if there was, it'd be only The Krotons or Seeds Of Death, as the sessions were January 1969. Even then, the band didn't have a TV on set - you're probably referring to a discussion that the group has about something on TV the previous night, which I'm pretty sure was an "Out Of The Unknown". No idea which one, though.
There's also a moment later on in the sessions (while the band listen to the playback of the rooftop concert), where Lennon asks the others if they listened to "John Cleese and that lot" last night and the "band" that they had on doing a Joe Cocker version of "On Ilkely Moor"... which is of course, a reference to Sir William Oddie and his performance on "I'm Sorry I'll Read That Again". Amazing how it all comes together, innit?
You could ask Ringo about old tapes, but he did suffer a serious house fire in the late 70s in which a lot of his priceless Beatles memorabilia was lost... so perhaps not.
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Post by ron on Jan 3, 2006 21:34:04 GMT
In another capacity, I've looked at a *lot* of Let It Be (aka "Get Back") stuff and there's no Who in there... even if there was, it'd be only The Krotons or Seeds Of Death, as the sessions were January 1969. Even then, the band didn't have a TV on set - you're probably referring to a discussion that the group has about something on TV the previous night, which I'm pretty sure was an "Out Of The Unknown". No idea which one, though. If that's the case it would be interesting to know what they were saying about the 'Out Of The Unknown' episode. In 1973 a double album 'Cinelogue - Let It Be' containing the complete dialogue of the 'Let It Be' film was made. I don't know if a video was ever released, but bits were in the 'Beatles Anthology' TV Mini-Series from 1995 released on DVD. ... If anybody has access to any of these!
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Post by Peter Chadwick on Jan 4, 2006 9:16:20 GMT
I'd be surprised if they watched any sci-fi telly during the making of 'Let It Be', as the sessions started at the ungodly hour (for them) of between 8-9am, and probably didn't stretch must past early evening. As for asking Ringo, I'm afraid not - all his tv & film recordings were lost in the fire at his Monte Carlo home in the late seventies. What's worse is that he didn't just have The Beatles' promo films made specially for TOTP, he actually had the full shows. Damn that fire!!!!!!!!!!. Apple aren't refusing to release 'Let It Be' on DVD, they've just had hundreds of hours of film (from each camera) to go through. A new cut is ready, the film has been colour graded scene-by-scene, and the music now matches what you see on the screen (which wasn't the case with the original film) and it's ready to go. It was due to be released a couple of years ago, but Apple didn't want it to clash with the rather fabulous 'Concert For George' DVD, then of course late last year the 'Concert For Bangla Desh' DVD was issued. Don't worry, it WILL be released.
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Post by LanceM on Jan 4, 2006 19:18:49 GMT
That still sucks about thatr fire. It seems when people come close to finding something that is missing , they later discover that it was burnt by a junking fire at the BBC or house fire, television station fire, or the rocket attack fire in Cyprus. Doctor Who episodes seem to have a predisposition to be destroyed: " death by flame".
Lance.
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Post by Laurence Piper on Jan 4, 2006 19:57:21 GMT
As for asking Ringo, I'm afraid not - all his tv & film recordings were lost in the fire at his Monte Carlo home in the late seventies. What's worse is that he didn't just have The Beatles' promo films made specially for TOTP, he actually had the full shows. Damn that fire!!!!!!!!!!. That's very sad news, Peter. Is it official that he had the whole shows then? In the past, no one has seemed to be clear about what was / wasn't lost. It would have been fascinating to know what other stuff was lost in that fire too. Probably not cheerful news though. Still, I do have hopes of that renegade copy of the 16/6/66 TOTP turning up eventually. I'm looking forward to this new version of Let It Be too. Sounds great from what you say of it.
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Post by Wright Blan on Jan 4, 2006 20:52:27 GMT
I'd be surprised if they watched any sci-fi telly during the making of 'Let It Be', as the sessions started at the ungodly hour (for them) of between 8-9am, and probably didn't stretch must past early evening. As for asking Ringo, I'm afraid not - all his tv & film recordings were lost in the fire at his Monte Carlo home in the late seventies. What's worse is that he didn't just have The Beatles' promo films made specially for TOTP, he actually had the full shows. Damn that fire!!!!!!!!!!. Apple aren't refusing to release 'Let It Be' on DVD, they've just had hundreds of hours of film (from each camera) to go through. A new cut is ready, the film has been colour graded scene-by-scene, and the music now matches what you see on the screen (which wasn't the case with the original film) and it's ready to go. It was due to be released a couple of years ago, but Apple didn't want it to clash with the rather fabulous 'Concert For George' DVD, then of course late last year the 'Concert For Bangla Desh' DVD was issued. Don't worry, it WILL be released. That's nice to hear. Now if Apple can get around to giving permission to use the Beatles footage in "The Chase", everything will be allright.
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Post by Peter Chadwick on Jan 5, 2006 7:24:04 GMT
As for asking Ringo, I'm afraid not - all his tv & film recordings were lost in the fire at his Monte Carlo home in the late seventies. What's worse is that he didn't just have The Beatles' promo films made specially for TOTP, he actually had the full shows. Damn that fire!!!!!!!!!!. That's very sad news, Peter. Is it official that he had the whole shows then? In the past, no one has seemed to be clear about what was / wasn't lost. It would have been fascinating to know what other stuff was lost in that fire too. Probably not cheerful news though. Still, I do have hopes of that renegade copy of the 16/6/66 TOTP turning up eventually. I'm looking forward to this new version of Let It Be too. Sounds great from what you say of it. Yes, I'm afraid they were complete shows. It was a similar arrangement to the one Dave Clark had a year or so later; a copy of the complete show they appeared on. After all, if a producer was lucky enough to get the fabs on his/her show, they wouldn't exactly say no to providing them with a copy. The biggest loss was, without a doubt, the TOTP shows. Don't forget, The Beatles did films for the B-sides of singles as well as the A-side, plus tracks from the 'Long Tall Sally' e.p. Ringo still collects bootlegs, though. In fact he's of the opinion that Apple should put out the bootlegs themselves, but obviously in studio quality where Apple have access to the original tapes.
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Post by Johnny 23 on Jan 5, 2006 11:48:55 GMT
If that's the case it would be interesting to know what they were saying about the 'Out Of The Unknown' episode. In 1973 a double album 'Cinelogue - Let It Be' containing the complete dialogue of the 'Let It Be' film was made. I don't know if a video was ever released, but bits were in the 'Beatles Anthology' TV Mini-Series from 1995 released on DVD. ... If anybody has access to any of these! I'm sure what they were saying is paraphrased in "Get Back: The Unauthorized Chronicle of the Beatles' " Let It Be" Disaster" by Doug Sulpy and Ray Schweighardt, I'll have a look tonight... It's not on the album you mention (as it wasn't included in the film), but in one of the "outtakes"... The film was released very briefly on video in America in the early 80s and is the source for many of the bootlegs out there. I think the film was last shown on the BBC in 1982. Interesting story about Ringo having the *complete* TOTPs... I would have thought the Musicians' Union would have put a stop to that sort of thing, which is why a lot of Top Of The Popses were ditched. What format would they have been in? 16mm? Cos Ringo was v. much into his cinematography (he did the honours for Magical Mystery Tour, you know...)
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Post by ron on Jan 5, 2006 16:37:43 GMT
Paraphrased sometimes means 'expletives removed', should be very interesting.
Immortality Inc. was on the 7th, Liar on the 14th, Last Lonely Man on the 21st and Beach Head on the 28th Jan 1969.
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