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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Apr 24, 2014 8:59:25 GMT
Yellow River was a song they were CONSIDERING as their single for early 1970.
By the Way - a cracking song, by the way was released as their single.
Jeff Christie released Yellow River in Spring 1970 and it was a number one.
I guess the clip may date from late 1969 or early 1970?
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Post by williammcgregor on Apr 24, 2014 11:34:05 GMT
Could anyone confirm whether or not The Who performed Magic Bus on Crackerjack? I believe there is billing for this but I find it too mouth wateringly promising to be true.
On Thursday the 21st November 1968 The Who pre-recorded a mimed performance of "Magic Bus" in front of a young audience at Golders Green Hippodrome, North London for transmission on "Crackerjack" the following day |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2014 12:25:48 GMT
I guess the clip may date from late 1969 or early 1970? Probably a shade later, I'd guess, after Christie had the hit with it. I was just really trying to get a handle on what edition it came from (and whether it's one that's in the archives!). |
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Apr 25, 2014 9:40:58 GMT
Could anyone confirm whether or not The Who performed Magic Bus on Crackerjack? I believe there is billing for this but I find it too mouth wateringly promising to be true.
On Thursday the 21st November 1968 The Who pre-recorded a mimed performance of "Magic Bus" in front of a young audience at Golders Green Hippodrome, North London for transmission on "Crackerjack" the following day Series 15, Episode 8. Wiped.  |
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Post by robchapman on Apr 29, 2014 19:20:12 GMT
Many thanks Ray and William for the extra detail and apologies for the delay in responding. I’ll tell you part of the reason I wanted this information and maybe it will lead to a whole other interesting thread if anyone wants to respond – something along the lines of bizarre bookings/incongruous billings, or whatever. I’m writing a piece at the moment about what sixties pop/light entertainment tv was actually like rather than all these little fairly tales you often read from people who weren’t there about a sixties they think existed (one that rarely accounts for the fact that The Who appeared on Crackerjack midway between doing Monterey and Woodstock!)
For example there’s a very good Scott Walker anthology edited by Rob Young that contains a piece by the writer Ian Penman who seems to think it bizarre that Scott appeared both on the Billy Cotton Band Show and on the Frankie Howerd Show. I argue that this was the norm and not incongruous at all, all part of light entertainment tv’s rich tapestry in the 1960s. In defence I’ve cited a few examples, for instance in the space of three weeks in May 1968 Grapefruit, The Herd and Eric Burdon and The Animals (in their psychedelic incarnation no less) appeared on the The Golden Shot with Bob Monkhouse. I’ve also mentioned an appearance by Howling Wolf on Juke Box Jury in 1964 when Smokestack Lighting was voted a miss and he was the studio guest. I believe that appearance is mention on a thread on here somewhere but I haven’t been able to find it. Does anyone know the studio guests on that particular edition of JBJ?
Anyway I’ve rambled on long enough. You get the idea. Any other examples of great incongruous/bizarre bookings that were par for the course back in the day?
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Apr 30, 2014 10:28:18 GMT
There are tons!
The Bonzos on the Golden Shot always amuses me - bet then so does the Beatles on Pops and Lenny.... (as does Napalm Death on What's That Noise, or whatever it was called!)
David Bowie on Cairmgorm Ski Night....
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Post by Tony Walshaw on May 1, 2014 7:35:56 GMT
....the writer Ian Penman who seems to think it bizarre that Scott appeared both on the Billy Cotton Band Show and on the Frankie Howerd Show. I argue that this was the norm and not incongruous at all, all part of light entertainment tv’s rich tapestry in the 1960s. In defence I’ve cited a few examples, for instance in the space of three weeks in May 1968 Grapefruit, The Herd and Eric Burdon and The Animals (in their psychedelic incarnation no less) appeared on the The Golden Shot with Bob Monkhouse.... Yes, I think that the 'real 60s' was somewhat different to how it has been portrayed since. There has been an impression given that ground-breaking parts (Beatles, Stones, Hendrix, Pink Floyd etc) represent the whole of it. Yet this was not true. Entertainment that was 'middle of the road' formed a huge part of life. Ken Dodd and Thunderbirds were just as much a part of it as Kenny Everett or Hawaii Five-O. William Hartnell was just as much a part of it as The Who.  If anything, the psychedelic and alternative aspect was kept to evening & weekend radio shows, and a lot of people didn't really notice it. I’m writing a piece at the moment about what sixties pop/light entertainment tv was actually like rather than all these little fairly tales you often read from people who weren’t there about a sixties they think existed (one that rarely accounts for the fact that The Who appeared on Crackerjack midway between doing Monterey and Woodstock!) Are you publishing the article Rob? How will we be able to see it? |
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on May 1, 2014 8:57:44 GMT
I agree totally, Tony. The 70's also had this go on, although to a slightly smaller extent.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2014 9:43:56 GMT
I’m writing a piece at the moment about what sixties pop/light entertainment tv was actually like rather than all these little fairly tales you often read from people who weren’t there about a sixties they think existed (one that rarely accounts for the fact that The Who appeared on Crackerjack midway between doing Monterey and Woodstock!) Are you publishing the article Rob? How will we be able to see it? Yes, I'd be interested in reading that too! |
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on May 1, 2014 9:47:31 GMT
Likewise, I would like to read the article too.
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Post by robchapman on May 1, 2014 18:46:45 GMT
Did I say ‘a piece?’ Sorry, as William and one or two others on here already know, I meant a whopping great book about psychedelia, which is due out next year. I’ve gone the scenic route and part of that entails setting the scene in which much of the music was seen and heard on the BBC – which entails a bit of myth busting of course, hence the dig at all those flimsy histories from people who weren’t there.
They can’t be blamed of course. If the TV (and radio) networks hadn’t committed such acts of cultural vandalism the history would be a lot less flimsy and full of guess work in the first place – which is why I’m eternally grateful for sites like this one, not just for the heroic acts of cultural retrieval but also for the intelligent discussion (most of the time!) about the nature of the quest.
If I wasn’t so busy writing the book I’d happily contribute a few comments to Ray’s TOTP memories thread, particularly as I’m one of those people who was watching that night in night in August 1967 when host Pete Murray introduced the Jimi Hendrix Experience, and instead of the introductory wah-wah tones of Burning Of The Midnight Lamp we were treated to 30 seconds or so of The Alan Price Set’s ‘The House That Jack Built’. “Uh, I don’t know the words to that one man,” said an amused looking Hendrix, before the camera hastily switched back the panic stricken host and the correct backing track was cued in for Hendrix to mime to. If there had been any surviving footage of this incident it would be a You Tube staple and would be guaranteed to be shown on blooper programmes and nostalgia shows for the rest of time. The usual rent a quote suspects would pop up with a pithy anecdote and pretending they’d seen it at the time and hadn’t just been shown it by a producer. As it is, in the absence of any visual evidence, you will have to take my word that it happened. I was that 12 year old pop kid and I was paying attention.
Or there was the time when John Peel made his one ill fated appearance in 1968, mumbled something along the lines of “there’s no Captain Beefheart or Tyrannosaurus Rex tonight. You’ll have to wait till Saturday for those. Meanwhile here are Amen Corner with the shape me bend me thing".
For which he was carpeted I believe!
Is this the sort of thing you meant Ray?
One more thing while I'm here re:
"I agree totally, Tony. The 70's also had this go on, although to a slightly smaller extent"
Oh, I dunno. Although there's a lot more footage there seems to be just as much myth. Noddy Holder banging on about how Slade's Merry Christmas helped us all forget about the three days week. And how punk rock changed the world...........etc etc.
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Post by williammcgregor on May 1, 2014 18:59:10 GMT
Hi Rob, Thanks for the fantastic piece of information regarding Jimi Hendrix on TOTP I've never heard of this before! as you say if the footage had survived it would have been shown again and again surely?
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Post by robchapman on May 1, 2014 19:18:22 GMT
I think it made the papers the next day William. There was certainly a "TOTP shambles! What went wrong?" piece about it in either Record Mirror or Disc and Music Echo the following week. You may want to search it out.
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on May 2, 2014 9:21:42 GMT
Brilliant Rob - this is what I want!
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Post by williammcgregor on May 2, 2014 9:26:59 GMT
I think it made the papers the next day William. There was certainly a "TOTP shambles! What went wrong?" piece about it in either Record Mirror or Disc and Music Echo the following week. You may want to search it out. I had a good look through all of August 1967 in the NME and found nothing so I'll look elsewhere now either Disc or Record Mirror |
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