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Post by William Martin on Sept 1, 2003 16:37:20 GMT
just seen this on the mausoleum club --------------------------------------------------------------- "On a (slightly) related subject, the NME has just published a magazine reprinting old Rolling Stones articles and in one interview from 1967, covering their infamous at the time slot on Sunday Night at the Palladium, Mike Jagger mentions that they went to Paul Asher's house after the broadcast to watch the show on his video recorder! Is this a brother of Jane and Peter Asher? I wonder if he's still got his tape...... For more long lost ATV Light Entertainment, how about Jonathan King hosting 'Good Evening' with guests like Jimi Hendrix. Although even if this was still around I don't think there'd be a stampede to issue a JK dvd boxed set at the moment! It wasn't just the big legendary names that did LE the little 'uns did it too, I read an interview once in which members of cult 60s mod-pop band The Creation claimed to have played on Crackerjack. Phil" -------------------------------------------------------------------- This is worth looking into also members.aol.com/songforme/boot.htmmentions weavers answer on dutch totp? |
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Post by Shaun Brennan on Sept 1, 2003 18:56:29 GMT
"I read an interview once in which members of cult 60s mod-pop band The Creation claimed to have played on Crackerjack. "
Love to know if that one survives. I'm now haunted by the thought of Peter Glaze doing live action painting while the band play "Painter Man"...
Shaun
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Post by Alan Smith on Sept 2, 2003 13:19:30 GMT
If anyone ever gets to read `The Radio One Annual` from 1969, inside as one of the features Chris Denning (He of child porn notoriety) mentions how he would set his video for Top Of The Pops to watch when he gets in late at night. I wonder if he kept the tapes? We'll probably never know. A.S.M
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Post by David Brunt on Sept 2, 2003 13:59:05 GMT
Oh, 'Crackerjack' always had top name bands of the time on the show. Only sad thing is that there are many missing episodes - from 1955 to 1975 only about eight survive.
So appearances by The Who, Status Quo, Slade, The Animals, The Small Faces, The Scaffold, the many permutations of Roy Wood and many others are all lost.
About the only acts who *didn't * appear were the Beatles, Stones and Kinks...
That said, I can't find a record of the Creation appearing, but there are a few act gaps in the Kal list.
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Post by Serendipity on Sept 2, 2003 15:24:26 GMT
there is a good spoof on an episode of bbc2s fast show "confessions of a door to door cucumber salesman" There were many classical actors in these as it was realy the only thing being made at the time and it was this or nothing  Thanks, William. I've not seen this Fast Show send-up. I'll have to look out for that. I was speaking to one of my older friends recently about Confessions and she said that she has some recollection of Robin Askwith being one of the cast. I don't know much about Robin Askwith other than that he had very long hair up to a few years ago since when he's had it cut quite short. I've seen some editions of Bless This House when it was repeated on satellite. Robin Stewart was Mike Abbot (what does He look like now? I can't find any current photos of him. He was in some Australian serial in the early 1980s, shown in the UK in the late 1980s or early 1990s on ITV) in the series but whether that Robin was unavailable or ill, it was Robin Askwith who stood in for the main actor in the film version, which has been shown from time to time and featured Terry Scott. |
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Post by Serendipity on Sept 2, 2003 15:25:52 GMT
thanks I've seen the pans/people mary hopkins Temma Harbour, but I can't remember if it was col. or b/w i've also seen the witches promise in both col. and b/w I also believe the same is true of badfingers' "come and get it" although I've only seen the monochrome TR recording the reason I gave Bill Wyman as a possible is that he was a gadget fan and was one of the first UK residents to get an Apple II computer in the late 70s and a video recorder is the sort of thing he would be interested in during the 60s the reason I gave Bill Wyman as a possible is that |
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Post by Serendipity on Sept 2, 2003 15:27:11 GMT
thanks I've seen the pans/people mary hopkins Temma Harbour, but I can't remember if it was col. or b/w i've also seen the witches promise in both col. and b/w I also believe the same is true of badfingers' "come and get it" although I've only seen the monochrome TR recording the reason I gave Bill Wyman as a possible is that he was a gadget fan and was one of the first UK residents to get an Apple II computer in the late 70s and a video recorder is the sort of thing he would be interested in during the 60s Thanks, William. Temma Harbour rarely gets any airplay on the radio. For that matter, neither do any of Mary's other songs. It's probably got something to do with the fact that some DJs are overparticular that "I don't like this, so I won't play it", which is selfish to the listeners who want to hear them but anyway, there are Mary Hopkin Greatest Hits CDs around so I might buy one of those. Temma Harbour is one of my favourite songs, which might have been an influence on Co-Co by The Sweet, going by the style of the song. I think Pan's People to Mary Hopkin's Temma Harbour exists in both colour and black and white from 25 February 1970 but where the Colour recordings of songs existing in black and white from the same editions, eg Badfinger (29 January 1970) come from is a mystery to me. The colour recording of Come and Get It by Badfinger comes from 29 January 1970 and was featured on the 1000th edition of TOTP on 5 May 1983. I hope the BBC haven't lost it, as I've not seen it for some time. It would be good if Bill Wyman recorded editions of Top of the Pops in the 1960s. Unfortunately though, it may be possible that Bill and most others won't have kept the recordings, due to not knowing then that the BBC had wiped them. I could be wrong, I hope I am in fact but if on a positive note, some performers have private recordings of their songs or complete shows of Top of the Pops, let's hope they come forward. So Apple was around as early as the late 1970s! Blimey! A shame their computers aren't the leaders in the market. The first computer I'd heard of was a BBC model and the first one I owned was a Commodore 64, which has been obsolete for almost 15 years. I had the Tape version, as I couldn't afford the Disk version then. The only fault I found was occasional freezing in the middle of a program that I hadn't saved to tape!, which nowadays can be saved with a quick click but it was stable on the whole. |
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Post by David Brunt on Sept 3, 2003 10:46:05 GMT
Askwith was the runner-up ro Robin Stewart during casting the part for the TV series and was given some small roles as "Mike's friend" as compensation.
When the movie version came along, the producers recast the part as by this point Stewart was being very difficult and disruptive - showing up late for the TV recordings, etc. They went back to the original casting choices and signed Askwith for the role he just missed out on a couple of years earlier.
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Post by Pete Seaton on Sept 3, 2003 13:59:53 GMT
The Badfinger colour clip is featured during the Rock n' roll years 1970 show......
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Post by William Martin on Sept 3, 2003 15:58:11 GMT
"I read an interview once in which members of cult 60s mod-pop band The Creation claimed to have played on Crackerjack. " Love to know if that one survives. I'm now haunted by the thought of Peter Glaze doing live action painting while the band play "Painter Man"... Shaun don't I can still remember him doing tell me more from grease welly welly welly |
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Post by William Martin on Sept 3, 2003 16:01:48 GMT
Thanks, William. I've not seen this Fast Show send-up. I'll have to look out for that. I was speaking to one of my older friends recently about Confessions and she said that she has some recollection of Robin Askwith being one of the cast. I don't know much about Robin Askwith other than that he had very long hair up to a few years ago since when he's had it cut quite short. I've seen some editions of Bless This House when it was repeated on satellite. Robin Stewart was Mike Abbot (what does He look like now? I can't find any current photos of him. He was in some Australian serial in the early 1980s, shown in the UK in the late 1980s or early 1990s on ITV) in the series but whether that Robin was unavailable or ill, it was Robin Askwith who stood in for the main actor in the film version, which has been shown from time to time and featured Terry Scott. he looks much the same as he did then, he was the star of many of the confession films driving instructor had an almost full frontal from linda"oxo"bellingham they were rather strange films not at the time but now they do have a certain surreal quality. |
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Post by William Martin on Sept 3, 2003 16:04:30 GMT
If anyone ever gets to read `The Radio One Annual` from 1969, inside as one of the features Chris Denning (He of child porn notoriety) mentions how he would set his video for Top Of The Pops to watch when he gets in late at night. I wonder if he kept the tapes? We'll probably never know. A.S.M no i don't think the good mr denning has much now, isn't he in self imposed exile in E. Europe it may have been worth talking to him but not now pity perhaps he gave them to one of the other radio 1 djs odd thing though there were no timers as far as i am aware until the phillips n1500 vcr in 1972/3 perhaps someone recorded them for him. |
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Post by William Martin on Sept 5, 2003 16:21:33 GMT
just seen this on the mausoleum club --------------------------------------------------------------- "On a (slightly) related subject, the NME has just published a magazine reprinting old Rolling Stones articles and in one interview from 1967, covering their infamous at the time slot on Sunday Night at the Palladium, Mike Jagger mentions that they went to Paul Asher's house after the broadcast to watch the show on his video recorder! Is this a brother of Jane and Peter Asher? I wonder if he's still got his tape...... For more long lost ATV Light Entertainment, how about Jonathan King hosting 'Good Evening' with guests like Jimi Hendrix. Although even if this was still around I don't think there'd be a stampede to issue a JK dvd boxed set at the moment! It wasn't just the big legendary names that did LE the little 'uns did it too, I read an interview once in which members of cult 60s mod-pop band The Creation claimed to have played on Crackerjack. Phil" -------------------------------------------------------------------- This is worth looking into also members.aol.com/songforme/boot.htmmentions weavers answer on dutch totp? the only person in showbiz with the name paul asher that i've come across so far is is a 34 year old producer of the film-Vampire Lesbian Kickboxers (2000)-, I don't think that's him |
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Post by William Martin on Sept 5, 2003 16:24:49 GMT
another possible source would be from the stores and shops that sold video recorders, there would be demo recordings and test recordings to play in the shop, these may have been of popular programming, does anyone know of any electronics stores that sold videos in the 1960s (preferably UK but Australia, Canada etc could also yeald lost british tv )it may be a start in tracing leads
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Post by Peter Chadwick on Sept 5, 2003 20:27:34 GMT
"there must be home video of totp out there if only home recordings by the pop stars themselves, i have mentioned before that sonny bono had a home video in about 1965 in the USA so others in the UK could well have had one at about the same time." - I believe there are many web sites run by pop stars, both past and current, including Carly Simon, David Essex, David Bowie, Chicory Tip, Lyn Paul (of the New Seekers), Middle of the Road, Mud (I think), and so many more.
Reflecting your comments, it makes me wonder how many people in the entertainment business, eg pop stars and presenters (both TOTP and other music shows from the 1960s and 1970s heyday), who are involved in the music business know that several Top of the Pops recordings are missing. Steve Harley does, as in a radio interview of earlier this year he said in a disappointed voice that "The BBC wiped Judy Teen", David Jacobs once said that The Beatles appeared on a show in 1963, probably Juke Box Jury and "I wish the BBC had kept the tape" and someone from Middle of the Road on the TOTP 2 web site was sorry that most of their performances had been wiped. It seems to me that many people in the entertainment business know about the losses and I presume that many will have been approached but probably to no avail in most cases but I could be wrong. With the Internet though, there must be a much greater likelihood of music, drama, comedy and factual programmes turning up, and in terms of TOTP, as the 40th anniversary edition is coming up, I'm sure all of us will agree that the return of more editions and performances, ready for this special show are essential to give the widest possible range of performances, both ones often repeated and newly found ones to give the most varied scope of songs, and instrumentals, whatever's left of those {Sleepy Shores by the Johnny Pearson Orchestra from 30/12/71 is probably the earliest surviving one).[/quote]
Many performers did indeed record their own tv appearances; Dave Clark used to make it a condition of his band's tv appearances that he receive a copy of the complete show, plus a copy of the DC5's clip on it's own. Now for the real bummer; Ringo Starr had copies of every tv show the Fabs performed on,or showed their promo films- TOTP,RSG!,People And Places,Thank Your Lucky Stars,Juke Box Jury etc. He had all these shows on film until the late '70s until a fire at his home in Monte Carlo destroyed everything in it. Maurice Gibb also had a home vtr in the late sixties, as he recorded the Lulu show which starred The Jimi Hendrix Experience, and after the live transmission, everyone went back to his house to watch it. Paul McCartney was GIVEN an early vtr by the BBC for his opinion on it (never heard anything else about it, though-maybe he still has it).
So, somewhere, SOME totp's must exist-never give up hope.
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