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Post by SteveP on Aug 8, 2003 17:09:04 GMT
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Post by Laurence Piper on Aug 8, 2003 18:30:08 GMT
So these brief clips could be from a technicians tape after all then? A false alarm? Some of them are a bit longer though (such as the '69 titles). Anyone else have more solid info?
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Post by Neil Barker on Aug 8, 2003 19:14:44 GMT
I'm sure Family's "Weaver's Answer" exists in full as the mystery person also uploaded numerous stills from that performance onto the internet at the same time as the montages.
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Post by ASM on Aug 9, 2003 8:17:31 GMT
That's good news Neil. I hope one of you fine people may be able to persuade this person to share this wonderful footage. I have urged Keith Badman to check his contacts because we think this is the same fellow that we got all that 1974 TOTP stuff from before we lost contact with him.
ASM
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Post by Serendipity on Aug 9, 2003 17:25:20 GMT
He also did a none-too-bad version of Nicky Thomas' "Love of the Common People". Steve Thanks, Steve. Well, well. That's a good song - Love of the Common People. Out of interest, I searched around to find out when this was released and it came out in 1968. I'm acquainted with the Nicky Thomas version from 1970 and Paul Young cover from 1983 but I never knew Joe Dolan did a version! I might request it on the radio one day. I'm sure the BBC will have it. Upon finding further information on Joe's version of the song, I came across his official web site: www.shopcreator.com/mall/JoeDolan/discogrp.htmI see that a song called Sweet Little Rock 'n' Roller is one of the songs he's performed. Maybe this is another version of the song Showaddywaddy had a hit with. |
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Post by Neil Barker on Aug 9, 2003 18:26:07 GMT
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Post by SteveP on Aug 10, 2003 0:11:08 GMT
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Post by William Martin on Aug 11, 2003 16:59:28 GMT
"He had some interesting character names - Lord Snodley! in something called Confessions of a Driving Instructor. Never seen this film, which is presumably a murder mystery thriller like Miss Marple. Please tell me more if you or anyone else knows, as I'm not acquainted with this." its a soft soft soft core porn film from the 70s like a carry on film only a bit more. it was one of a series of "Confessions" films that exploited the censorship laws by almost giving the people something they couldn't get leagaly, when the censorship laws were relaxed these films dissapeared, still they were about the only british films being made at the time and confessions of a window cleaner was the top british film of 1974 they did help to keep the UK film industry going. they're a bit of an aquired taste one I have not developed.  |
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Post by William Martin on Aug 11, 2003 17:03:26 GMT
So these brief clips could be from a technicians tape after all then? A false alarm? Some of them are a bit longer though (such as the '69 titles). Anyone else have more solid info? bother blow damn blast and xmass pudding. I shall offer a sacrifice for the existence of the complete performances. so then for now we are in the realm of Shroedingers Cat.   |
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Post by William Martin on Aug 11, 2003 17:17:49 GMT
"You're much more well up than me on film, William. This is most useful. I must have been too ambitious about the length of time home Film equipment had, so probably very few performances will have been recorded after all by home users. Some of the early editions of Top of the Pops appear to be on film, as there are scratches and specs on some recordings, like A Whiter Shade of Pale by Procol Harum (1967) and Fire by The Crazy World of Arthur Brown (1968), whereas I Can't Get Next to You by The Temptations (1970) could be from a video recording, as I recall the picture being very clear but am sure the sound was slightly faded"
most of the early tv was recorded on film by a TeleRecorder machine it had a syncronised film camera 16mm or 35mm pointed at a bright tv monitor the ealry TOTP clips where on video but were transferred to film so that they could be preserved and the video re-used.
as for clips owned by pop stars, they may or may not know what is missing, many probably don't know, in many cases they will have forgotten what they have. I still think there is a good chance of someone like bill wyman having a few editions on early home video.
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Post by Serendipity on Aug 29, 2003 17:33:04 GMT
Hi Serendipity, Give me an email off the board - steve.phillips@kcl.ac.uk Steve Upon finding further information on Joe's version of the song, I came across his official web site: www.shopcreator.com/mall/JoeDolan/discogrp.htmI see that a song called Sweet Little Rock 'n' Roller is one of the songs he's performed. Maybe this is another version of the song Showaddywaddy had a hit with. [/quote] Thanks, Steve. A message is on its way. |
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Post by Serendipity on Aug 29, 2003 17:36:24 GMT
as for clips owned by pop stars, they may or may not know what is missing, many probably don't know, in many cases they will have forgotten what they have. I still think there is a good chance of someone like bill wyman having a few editions on early home video. Thanks, William. Sorry to you and the others who contacted me for getting back to you a while after you sent me messages. I've been overwhelmed with so much to do but I will answer each of you now. I wish there were a Bill Wyman web site. Some singers apparently have their own sites. Ones I've come across are: Chicory Tip, Lyn Paul (New Seekers), Middle of the Road, All About Eve, the Glitter Band, Mud, Noel Edmonds (not a commercial singer! but at some point I heard I Wanna Be a Winner by Brown Sauce in the early 1980s, which I had no idea featured Noel Edmonds with Maggie Philbin and Keith Chegwin until a DJ mentioned this fact!) - www.noeledmonds.tv, Rick Wakeman and The Osmonds but there must be many more. Maybe Mick Jagger has his own web site or alternatively, a fan site of these and other singers probably have access to how to contact the stars in question. I didn't realise that many of the early Top of the Pops were originally recorded on video tape. The quality must have been outstanding. I think that Noel Edmonds' 1 February 1973 show must be on film, or at least it's in black and white and is probably recovered from overseas. Someone said that 4 January 1973 is in black and white. Are there any other post-November 1969 editions or portions of Top of the Pops that were broadcast in colour but now exist in black and white? I'm currently aware of: 29 January 1970, 5 February 1970, 26 February 1970 and 16 November 1972 and that the first and third editions presented by Jimmy Savile have some colour performances, like by Badfinger, Jethro Tull, Rare Earth and Pan's People to Mary Hopkin. |
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Post by Serendipity on Aug 29, 2003 17:46:20 GMT
"He had some interesting character names - Lord Snodley! in something called Confessions of a Driving Instructor. Never seen this film, which is presumably a murder mystery thriller like Miss Marple. Please tell me more if you or anyone else knows, as I'm not acquainted with this." its a soft soft soft core porn film from the 70s like a carry on film only a bit more. it was one of a series of "Confessions" films that exploited the censorship laws by almost giving the people something they couldn't get leagaly, when the censorship laws were relaxed these films dissapeared, still they were about the only british films being made at the time and confessions of a window cleaner was the top british film of 1974 they did help to keep the UK film industry going. they're a bit of an aquired taste one I have not developed. Thanks, William. Oh, crikey! Not a murder mystery thriller as I'd first thought! Thanks for putting me in the picture about what the "Confessions" films are really about. I'll never be able to live that one down. ;D  |
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Post by William Martin on Sept 1, 2003 15:40:09 GMT
there is a good spoof on an episode of bbc2s fast show "confessions of a door to door cucumber salesman" There were many classical actors in these as it was realy the only thing being made at the time and it was this or nothing |
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Post by William Martin on Sept 1, 2003 15:47:38 GMT
Thanks, William. Sorry to you and the others who contacted me for getting back to you a while after you sent me messages. I've been overwhelmed with so much to do but I will answer each of you now. I wish there were a Bill Wyman web site. Some singers apparently have their own sites. Ones I've come across are: Chicory Tip, Lyn Paul (New Seekers), Middle of the Road, All About Eve, the Glitter Band, Mud, Noel Edmonds (not a commercial singer! but at some point I heard I Wanna Be a Winner by Brown Sauce in the early 1980s, which I had no idea featured Noel Edmonds with Maggie Philbin and Keith Chegwin until a DJ mentioned this fact!) - www.noeledmonds.tv, Rick Wakeman and The Osmonds but there must be many more. Maybe Mick Jagger has his own web site or alternatively, a fan site of these and other singers probably have access to how to contact the stars in question. I didn't realise that many of the early Top of the Pops were originally recorded on video tape. The quality must have been outstanding. I think that Noel Edmonds' 1 February 1973 show must be on film, or at least it's in black and white and is probably recovered from overseas. Someone said that 4 January 1973 is in black and white. Are there any other post-November 1969 editions or portions of Top of the Pops that were broadcast in colour but now exist in black and white? I'm currently aware of: 29 January 1970, 5 February 1970, 26 February 1970 and 16 November 1972 and that the first and third editions presented by Jimmy Savile have some colour performances, like by Badfinger, Jethro Tull, Rare Earth and Pan's People to Mary Hopkin. thanks I've seen the pans/people mary hopkins Temma Harbour, but I can't remember if it was col. or b/w i've also seen the witches promise in both col. and b/w I also believe the same is true of badfingers' "come and get it" although I've only seen the monochrome TR recording the reason I gave Bill Wyman as a possible is that he was a gadget fan and was one of the first UK residents to get an Apple II computer in the late 70s and a video recorder is the sort of thing he would be interested in during the 60s |
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