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Post by pete on Dec 2, 2003 21:14:21 GMT
some wet wet wet  ? |
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Post by ASM on Dec 4, 2003 11:31:41 GMT
Ah! That's more like it. Wev'e got to keep this thread going. In fact I can't really remember what this section started with (Was it something about a TOTP montage?) Best bit for me was when Jeff Vagg asked some great chart related questions. Daresay everyone else thought "What are these sad people droning on about?" Ho Hum! Catch you at 5000 Pete. ASM ;D ;D
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Post by William Martin on Dec 8, 2003 16:48:24 GMT
this thread should have its own section, "the Amazing Imortal Everlasting Indestructable Thread"
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Post by William Martin on Dec 8, 2003 17:42:46 GMT
does the totp title sequence nov69-nov70 exist in full in colour? and when was the title sequence with the old car? I saw that car once as it passed us on the motorway. by the way have you seen the colour pictures on the totp2 site www.bbc.co.uk/totp2/features/wallpaper/sixties3.shtmlthese are the ones I was talking about concerning the colourisation process |
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Post by Pete on Dec 8, 2003 23:51:09 GMT
the last time I saw all these titles, Yes I do remember.!!!!
I was in me nappies, till they fell off, exposing me bum,
they are all wiped now !!!!!
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Post by pete on Dec 8, 2003 23:53:26 GMT
4771th now.....
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Post by ASM on Dec 9, 2003 10:42:23 GMT
The thought of Pete's exposed bum is too much to take in all at once! On colour TOTP, according to Keith Badman experimental colour shots were taken during the filming of some shows in 1967/68. ASM
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Post by pete on Dec 9, 2003 12:07:31 GMT
is hey fattie bum bum wiped ? after St Cecilia jumped up and down and waived her knickers in the air |
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Post by Jeff Vagg on Dec 9, 2003 13:01:33 GMT
Alan, can you confirm that the charts of the year in Tony Jasper's book (excluding the 1st edition) up to 1970 are simple points based calculations of the weekly charts and nothing to do with sales?
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Post by ASM on Dec 9, 2003 15:49:12 GMT
Dear Jeff
Yes! Record Mirror did compile their charts on a points basis - not direct sales figures. The early years of the paper (1955 to 1961) actually displayed the individual Top 10's sent in by each shop which supplied returns to the Mirror. I spoke to Peter Jones, Michael clare and Graeme Andrews (Ex editors of R.Mirror and Record Retailer) who confirmed that the Retailers charts were done on similar lines. (As you know R.Mirror started using the R.R chart from 24/3/62) Only when the BRMB chart appearred on 15/2/69 were actual direct sales figures totalled. N.B NME and M.Maker used points system too. Hope that helps Jeff. ASM.
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Post by Jeff Vagg on Dec 9, 2003 15:53:15 GMT
I'm really talking about the charts he prints for the whole year - for 1970, it's a top ten that bears no resembalnce to the BMRB Top 50 that Alan Freeman played, and for 1968 it's a Top 22 with a 3 way tie at No 20 - so I presume these were fairly simply calculated from the weekly charts themselves.
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Post by ASM on Dec 9, 2003 16:04:34 GMT
Extra info for Jeff. All shops kept sales figures (It would be commercial suicide not to) but for time and expediancy's sake, only phoned or posted in a Top 10, 20, 30 etc of best selling titles. This could contradict what was actual best seller - an example: If we take a chart based on Four shops! Shop 1 has it's record A sales at 1'050. Record B at 575. (So no's 1 & 2 on their lists) Shop 2 has Record A at 600 sales and record B at 650 sales. Shop 3 has Record A at 700 sales, Record B at 710 sales. And Shop 4 Record A at 870 sales, Record B at 880 sales. On pure sales Record A wins by 3,220 sales to B's 2,815 (Hope my maths is sound!) But! on points B has 7pts to A's 5pts. So indirect sales could sometimes provide odd results. ASM  |
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Post by ASM on Dec 9, 2003 16:14:20 GMT
Oh I see Jeff! And i've woffled on a hell of a lot. The End of year chart was compiled in "Record Mirror" (1970) on 30 points no1, 29 for no2 and so on. I believe the "Record Retailer" did a sales based one where "In The Summertime" rightly came top. It was nigh on impossible to get precise sales figures for 1960's records. I have a copy of "DISC" where "Sugar Sugar" is awarded a gold disc for over one million U.K sales; yet in the NME all time top sellers it is under the Million figure. Also in 1966 Ken Dodd's "Tears" was officially audited by August 1966 as passing 1,600,000. Again a figure now contradicted. It's a Labyrinth. Alan S.
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Post by Jeff Vagg on Dec 9, 2003 17:18:27 GMT
when in 1972 Tony Blackburn played the Top 100 best selling Number 1*s of the preceding decade, Cinderella Rockefella appeared much higher than in subsequent calculations.
(*naturally this included 19th Nervous Breakdown, because they used the BBC charts not the Record Retailer ones in deciding what was number 1!)
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Post by Pete Seaton on Dec 9, 2003 17:30:21 GMT
The Accelerators - Christmas is a pain in the arse
hotly tipped for xmas No.1....
now on sale at Amazon UK, HMV & Virgin
and some little shope in Weston-super-Mare
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