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Post by William Martin on Jul 24, 2007 16:01:05 GMT
does anyone have a list of what survives from the 1970 LWT show?
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Post by Mark Tinkler on Jul 25, 2007 11:11:35 GMT
Just the opening titles and his walk-on which was found on the end of a dump tape... 'tis in colour though!
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Post by Greg H on Jul 25, 2007 11:50:23 GMT
Wow, didnt realise it was that chronic a situation. Thats a pity. I thought there were a few clips left at least.
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Post by William Martin on Jul 27, 2007 14:13:26 GMT
Just the opening titles and his walk-on which was found on the end of a dump tape... 'tis in colour though! MarkT & gh thanks for the replies, this is what I thought, but read in the simon dee biography that some interview video clips survived (perhaps this refers to audio though and the writer had misunderstood) |
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Post by suffolkpunch on Jul 29, 2007 16:04:30 GMT
Hi there, William,
This is the author of the Simon Dee biography (yes, really); hope that you might have enjoyed the book. I was well aware that only a brief clip of the titles and the start of an interview with Patrick Cargill is all that (officially) exists of the 1970 LWT series, and my publishers unfortunately misunderstood the distinction - right the way in to print - between my research in tracking down who originally guested, and what remained, over 30 years on, in the VT archives. Apologies for any misunderstanding!
I live in the hope that more might exist out there somewhere - both of 'Dee Time' and the LWT show - but it's going to take an awful lot of digging. As I mention in the book, part of Simon's tragedy is the fact that so little of his TV legacy remains. I'd argue that his interviews were even more crucial to '60s popular culture than Parkinson's (born in the same year, remember) were to the '70s. The crucial distinction being that all of Parkinson's remain preserved for posterity.
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Post by lfbarfe on Jul 29, 2007 18:16:06 GMT
Not quite all, Richard. All of the first series of Parkinson was wiped in the few weeks before the second run started. This was discovered when Paul Fox decided to open the second series with a repeat of the Orson Welles interview, but found it no longer existed. The 17 July 1971 edition survives as a telerecording, kept by the estate of John Lennon, who was the guest on that one, but that's it.
It's certainly a crying shame that more Simon Dee stuff doesn't exist, though. The first show would be particularly interesting to see - special guests: Libby Morris, Lance Percival and the Jimi Hendrix Experience...
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Post by hartley967 on Jul 29, 2007 18:31:10 GMT
re Parkinson
I think the 71 interview with Shirley Maclaine was also a victim too?
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Post by lfbarfe on Jul 29, 2007 20:48:58 GMT
If she was a guest in the first series who wasn't either John Lennon or Yoko Ono, her appearance doesn't exist.
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Post by Mark Tinkler on Jul 30, 2007 12:06:36 GMT
In fact, I returned a copy of the Lennon/Ono Parkinson to the BBC last year - not great quality, but at least they've got it back.
And just to clarify about the LWT Dee, it's no more than the Patrick Carghill intro that exists - hence my reason for saying opening titles and walk-on is all that exists...
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Post by Peter Elliott on Jul 31, 2007 12:04:37 GMT
Interesting the John and Yoko "Parkinson" interview is being talked about here. It is known that they would always try and get their own copies of their TV appearances. Particularly between 1969 and 1971 John and Yoko seemed to be archiving their lives obsessively.
They guested on Simon Dees' LWT show - the 4th edition broadcast 8th February 1970 and one can only wonder if Yoko may have a copy of that in her archive. They brought along the controversial Michael X with them on the show, who they later disowned and regretted getting involved with which may account for why we have never seen any clips of the show.
Its quite probable it is long gone but we can't rule out the possibility that that particular show may exist in Yokos' archive, not that we're ever likely to know for sure which is a shame.
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Post by Mark Tinkler on Jul 31, 2007 15:58:40 GMT
If she does have it, she's keeping it to herself...
The copy I returned of the Lennon/One Parky was a copy of Yoko's...
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Post by William Martin on Aug 1, 2007 13:17:23 GMT
Yes I did enjoy the book, I though it must have been a misunderstanding regarding the video clips. Hi there, William, This is the author of the Simon Dee biography (yes, really); hope that you might have enjoyed the book. I was well aware that only a brief clip of the titles and the start of an interview with Patrick Cargill is all that (officially) exists of the 1970 LWT series, and my publishers unfortunately misunderstood the distinction - right the way in to print - between my research in tracking down who originally guested, and what remained, over 30 years on, in the VT archives. Apologies for any misunderstanding! I live in the hope that more might exist out there somewhere - both of 'Dee Time' and the LWT show - but it's going to take an awful lot of digging. As I mention in the book, part of Simon's tragedy is the fact that so little of his TV legacy remains. I'd argue that his interviews were even more crucial to '60s popular culture than Parkinson's (born in the same year, remember) were to the '70s. The crucial distinction being that all of Parkinson's remain preserved for posterity. |
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Post by JeffVagg on Aug 2, 2007 17:38:46 GMT
..what I remember, which had me spellbound, from Dee Time, was a guest who came on wearing a knight in armour's helmet, and Simon explained that it was a man who had been jilted at the aisle many years before and had worn it ever since, but was now going to remove it on live tv. Off indeed came the helmet - and it was in fact Spike Milligan! A brilliant start to his interview.
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Post by SydV on Aug 4, 2007 21:11:04 GMT
I have seen a reference to the John, Yoko & Michael X appearance on Dee's LWT series on a trade list (audio only), a length of 13:33 was detailed.
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Post by Peter Elliott on Aug 4, 2007 21:24:42 GMT
I have seen a reference to the John, Yoko & Michael X appearance on Dee's LWT series on a trade list (audio only), a length of 13:33 was detailed. Thanks for that info Syd. Nice to know it does exist in audio form. And that brings an interesting factor to mind... whilst bugger all is left of the TV shows themselves then surely there must be lost Simon Dee material existing in audio form. It was one of the biggest shows of its time with all the top music acts and unique interviews... so one would guess there should be some out there. So... what do we know of that exists in audio format? |
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