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Post by johngrundy on Aug 3, 2024 8:45:19 GMT
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Post by mattbarker on Aug 3, 2024 9:01:20 GMT
Thousands of copies of the dvd and blu ray still out there - so I don't think so.
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Post by simonashby on Aug 3, 2024 12:24:25 GMT
It still exists in the BBC archives so on that basis it's very obviously a no.
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Post by johngrundy on Aug 3, 2024 12:30:20 GMT
It still exists in the BBC archives so on that basis it's very obviously a no. The original will be re-dubbed, apparently, so the master copy, if you like, will be censored. It won't exist as it is anymore, only in a purged form. |
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Post by RWels on Aug 3, 2024 14:39:36 GMT
It still exists in the BBC archives so on that basis it's very obviously a no. The original will be re-dubbed, apparently, so the master copy, if you like, will be censored. It won't exist as it is anymore, only in a purged form. Citation please. Tons of things are archived that are for all sorts of reasons "blocked" for further use. |
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Post by johngrundy on Aug 3, 2024 15:24:46 GMT
The original will be re-dubbed, apparently, so the master copy, if you like, will be censored. It won't exist as it is anymore, only in a purged form. Citation please. Tons of things are archived that are for all sorts of reasons "blocked" for further use. This is not the same. A certain portion of Fear Her is now blocked from further use. Not the whole show. Those other archived items haven't been purged of certain clips or audio. |
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Post by garysrothwellx on Aug 3, 2024 15:29:04 GMT
Is there a need to re-write history?? In no way condoning what he has done, but given the report states that his reports on the Queen's death are still on iPlayer, seems excessive. My thoughts.
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Post by simonashby on Aug 3, 2024 15:52:51 GMT
I'm not sure there's anything relevant to discuss here. It still exists in the BBC archives so on that basis it's very obviously a no. The original will be re-dubbed, apparently, so the master copy, if you like, will be censored. It won't exist as it is anymore, only in a purged form. 'apparently' |
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Post by mattbarker on Aug 3, 2024 16:50:07 GMT
Or they will have two copies - one with, one without. I'm not sure what point is being made with this given how easy it is to access the original.
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Post by John Green on Aug 3, 2024 17:36:58 GMT
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Post by RWels on Aug 3, 2024 18:20:56 GMT
This is not the same. A certain portion of Fear Her is now blocked from further use. Not the whole show. Those other archived items haven't been purged of certain clips or audio. Actually, that sounds exactly the same to me? The rest of the episode won't be changed. You should probably let go of the idea that someone is editing directly into the master copy; that's a misconception. Anyway, I was talking about those strange "non-who programs" that apparently exist as well. LOTS of programs (or episodes of nonwho programs) exist in two versions. Also, lots of programs that are archived (in either one or more versions) have a "blocked" status, because they aren't suitable for re-use, for varying reasons (not all of which have to do with the content). Or they will have two copies - one with, one without. Yes exactly like that. It's very common. |
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Post by johngrundy on Aug 3, 2024 18:32:15 GMT
I'm not sure there's anything relevant to discuss here. The original will be re-dubbed, apparently, so the master copy, if you like, will be censored. It won't exist as it is anymore, only in a purged form. 'apparently' That's correct, Simon - apparently. As in this being a press story. Until the episode returns to i-player redubbed it's apparently. |
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Post by johngrundy on Aug 3, 2024 18:35:00 GMT
Can't see how this is relevant to this thread, John? Not a story about the latest Doctor Who episode to be censored. |
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Post by johngrundy on Aug 3, 2024 18:40:41 GMT
Or they will have two copies - one with, one without. I'm not sure what point is being made with this given how easy it is to access the original. Good point, but the 'one with' won't be available any longer to the viewer from the source - the archive. Doesn't matter if it's tape or digital - there is still an archive for it. And now this story could be archived as one copy with changes made for the future. A censored copy, like we have a censored version of the War Machines in the archive. |
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Post by johngrundy on Aug 3, 2024 18:43:27 GMT
This is not the same. A certain portion of Fear Her is now blocked from further use. Not the whole show. Those other archived items haven't been purged of certain clips or audio. Actually, that sounds exactly the same to me? The rest of the episode won't be changed. You should probably let go of the idea that someone is editing directly into the master copy; that's a misconception. Anyway, I was talking about those strange "non-who programs" that apparently exist as well. LOTS of programs (or episodes of nonwho programs) exist in two versions. Also, lots of programs that are archived (in either one or more versions) have a "blocked" status, because they aren't suitable for re-use, for varying reasons (not all of which have to do with the content). Or they will have two copies - one with, one without. Yes exactly like that. It's very common. Master tape aside - because there isn't one - what will the archival status of Fear Her be considered as - in future? Will there be 2 versions as Matt raised, or only a recognised censored version? This is where the discussion is interesting because we are now out of the 16mm/video era into digital. But what will the archival status of Fear Her now be? |
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