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Post by Ken Jacowitz on Jan 25, 2024 19:46:40 GMT
Recovered episodes, that already exist and are not lost.
Some years ago, a couple pf people mentioned these recovered but duplicate episodes. I’d still like to know where and how they were recovered. And what episodes they were.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2024 2:43:36 GMT
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Post by Ken Jacowitz on Jan 26, 2024 4:15:36 GMT
Angel, thank you. I somehow missed the thread you shared. I’ll be spending happy time going over.
My question was specifically about rediscovers in the last 10 years, even if there was already a copy.
Seems Ian Levine in 2014 returned episodes. How did he find them?
It wasn’t credited to Ian Levine, but 6 or 8 years ago there was a tidbit about another multiple episodes recovery. But duplicates of still existing episodes. What’s the backstory of the rediscovering?
Even if they are duplicates, that there are still reels of Doctor Who out there! Gives me hope!
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Post by Sara Irving on Jan 26, 2024 9:58:48 GMT
I believe the Levine find is generally considered to have been a hoax - there certainly seems to have been no evidence produced, see the thread about it back in 2014: missingepisodes.proboards.com/thread/10019/taiwanese-prints-exist. The last duplicates I can think of being found were those of Web 1 and Enemy 3 back in 2013, and before that was Conspiracy (The Romans 3) in 2011 and The Rescue (The Daleks 5) in 2004.
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Post by John Wall on Jan 26, 2024 9:59:09 GMT
I don’t recall anything specific in 2014 although I think IL may have been hoaxed.
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Post by Scot Ferre on Jan 26, 2024 13:06:53 GMT
There's no conclusive evidence that the Taiwan incident was a hoax. It remains an open book, for me. But either way, it's not likely we'll see the prints, if they exist.
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Post by davetudor on Jan 26, 2024 13:48:11 GMT
What was supposed to have been found in 2014? Apologies, I've had a quick look through the old thread but couldn't see any titles.
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Post by Ronnie McDevitt on Jan 26, 2024 15:00:29 GMT
If my memory is correct there was a suggestion Ian was feeling left out after Phil got all the publicity following the missing Troughton recoveries and he may have been indulging in a bit of attention seeking hence the hoax - if that is what it was. Don't have any verification of this of course.
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Post by John Wall on Jan 26, 2024 15:14:16 GMT
I think IL was hoaxed, he was given information he wanted to hear!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2024 18:25:43 GMT
Ok, this has turned into a debate where the "Taiwan Print" discovery is a hoax or not. Let's see if Paul wants to chime in.
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Post by Richard Bignell on Jan 26, 2024 18:52:29 GMT
Ok, this has turned into a debate where the "Taiwan Print" discovery is a hoax or not. Let's see if Paul wants to chime in. Is that not relevant to the subject, given that the story is about the supposed discovery of nine pre-existing episodes - and ten if you want to count the recently recovered Episode 6 of The Enemy of the World?
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Post by John Wall on Jan 26, 2024 18:54:50 GMT
It was fairly extensively discussed here. AFAIK no actual prints have ever been produced, it seems that someone contacted Ian claiming to have them and he then went public. There’s no record of DW being sold to Taiwan or any route by which they could have got there.
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Post by Sara Irving on Jan 26, 2024 20:55:44 GMT
Ok, this has turned into a debate where the "Taiwan Print" discovery is a hoax or not. Let's see if Paul wants to chime in. Interesting definition of debate. Paul commented back in 2014 in the thread I linked originally: missingepisodes.proboards.com/thread/10019/taiwanese-prints-exist?page=6 - 6 posts down. Refer to the third-last line. The general consensus appears to be that no evidence was ever produced that the episodes ever existed, apart from what was said by Ian and Keith. As far as I'm concerned, 10 years later, that's as much evidence as I need to believe it was a hoax, as I tend to work off the rule that evidence has to be present proving the existence of something, rather than assuming it exists until there's evidence it doesn't.
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Post by Rob Moss on Jan 27, 2024 0:15:46 GMT
Angel has been given a final warning about inflammatory posts. I’ve also pruned this thread.
Angel - if I have to prune it again, I will also be pruning the members list.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2024 0:17:11 GMT
Angel has been given a final warning about inflammatory posts. I’ve also pruned this thread. Angel - if I have to prune it again, I will also be pruning the members list. Please don't ban us!
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