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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Oct 14, 2023 22:17:10 GMT
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Post by barneyhall on Oct 14, 2023 22:55:44 GMT
That is quite interesting it does state the cans are empty but even so I'd be fascinated by there history
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Post by John Green on Oct 14, 2023 23:55:05 GMT
For future reference: "Quantity of Doctor Who Memorabilia, including Danbury Mint Chess pieces x Thirty-Two (incomplete), x two empty film canisters from The Abominable Snowman episode 5 and 6, Tardis DVD box set. Excellent condition. (qty)."
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Post by George D on Oct 15, 2023 1:42:18 GMT
For future reference: "Quantity of Doctor Who Memorabilia, including Danbury Mint Chess pieces x Thirty-Two (incomplete), x two empty film canisters from The Abominable Snowman episode 5 and 6, Tardis DVD box set. Excellent condition. (qty)." The history of those cans would be interesting |
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Post by Jon Preddle on Oct 15, 2023 3:08:15 GMT
They look fake. For one thing they don't have accurate for the period labels on them. They look like they've been printed, the paper stick is too rigid to be stickers, hence why the part 6 one is being held down with very modern-looking plastic sealing tape (was stuff like that around in 1973?). The labels and tape are far too clean to be 50 years old.
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Post by josephsenior on Oct 15, 2023 7:56:16 GMT
They look fake. For one thing they don't have accurate for the period labels on them. They look like they've been printed, the paper stick is too rigid to be stickers, hence why the part 6 one is being held down with very modern-looking plastic sealing tape (was stuff like that around in 1973?). The labels and tape are far too clean to be 50 years old. For future reference here is a link to what Episode 2 of Power of the Daleks' master print looked like: paulmullins.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/wikimedia_missing_doctor_who_2.jpg |
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Post by brandonm on Oct 15, 2023 8:10:56 GMT
Clearly fakes based off Gordon Hendry's self-made labels for Evil of the Daleks episode 2 (see above).
Notice that in that picture the BBC logo is hard to see due to JPG compression. Whoever was recreating the label for these two cans seems to have missed it.
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Post by Jon Preddle on Oct 15, 2023 8:12:28 GMT
But that's fake as well! Gordon Hendry who owns the film (BTE, its Evil, not Power) made that label himself. It's not an authentic of the period label. So the ones on The Abominable Snowmen reels appear to be copied from that one. Fakes from fakes! |
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Post by andyparting on Oct 15, 2023 9:19:45 GMT
If fake someone's gone to a lot of trouble acquiring genuine-looking rusted film cans. Or are these 10-a-penny on eBay?
Any thoughts on the date on them? What does this tell us in terms of which country they came back from?
Can anybody contact the seller for more info?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2023 13:46:45 GMT
They look fake. For one thing they don't have accurate for the period labels on them. They look like they've been printed, the paper stick is too rigid to be stickers, hence why the part 6 one is being held down with very modern-looking plastic sealing tape (was stuff like that around in 1973?). The labels and tape are far too clean to be 50 years old. For future reference here is a link to what Episode 2 of Power of the Daleks' master print looked like: paulmullins.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/wikimedia_missing_doctor_who_2.jpgThat's the can of episode 2 of the EVIL of the Daleks, plus those aren't the correct BBC labels, those are Gordon Hendry's labels that he placed on the ex-Australian print. THIS is what a BBC 16mm Master Print should look like, it's Episode 1 of The Rescue. www.flickr.com/photos/missingepisodes/10113002826 |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2023 13:49:10 GMT
But that's fake as well! Gordon Hendry who owns the film (BTE, its Evil, not Power) made that label himself. It's not an authentic of the period label. So the ones on The Abominable Snowmen reels appear to be copied from that one. Fakes from fakes! Not to mention that Gordon Hendry's prints are actually the ex-Australian prints and not the original master Tele-recordings. Pity that he peeled off the ABC stickers and perhaps the BBC Enterprise Tele-recordings stickers in order to try to make them look more authentic. |
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Post by andyparting on Oct 15, 2023 16:17:03 GMT
But that's fake as well! Gordon Hendry who owns the film (BTE, its Evil, not Power) made that label himself. It's not an authentic of the period label. So the ones on The Abominable Snowmen reels appear to be copied from that one. Fakes from fakes! Not to mention that Gordon Hendry's prints are actually the ex-Australian prints and not the original master Tele-recordings. Pity that he peeled off the ABC stickers and perhaps the BBC Enterprise Tele-recordings stickers in order to try to make them look more authentic. While I appreciate that me asking you a question gives the everyman a sense of the lunatics taking over the asylum, I would like to know how you established authenticity as the reason for peeling off the labels? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2023 17:17:50 GMT
Not to mention that Gordon Hendry's prints are actually the ex-Australian prints and not the original master Tele-recordings. Pity that he peeled off the ABC stickers and perhaps the BBC Enterprise Tele-recordings stickers in order to try to make them look more authentic. While I appreciate that me asking you a question gives the everyman a sense of the lunatics taking over the asylum, I would like to know how you established authenticity as the reason for peeling off the labels? Gordon bought the ex-Australian prints, peeled off the original labels and put his own labels on. If you check BroaDWcast or read Wiped, it's mentioned that it happened. |
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Post by andyparting on Oct 15, 2023 17:49:17 GMT
While I appreciate that me asking you a question gives the everyman a sense of the lunatics taking over the asylum, I would like to know how you established authenticity as the reason for peeling off the labels? Gordon bought the ex-Australian prints, peeled off the original labels and put his own labels on. If you check BroaDWcast or read Wiped, it's mentioned that it happened. No mention is made on either that he did this, "in order to try to make them look more authentic"? |
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Post by Jon Preddle on Oct 15, 2023 19:20:31 GMT
The film can in that photo is the one that Ian Levine acquired when he bought copies in the late 1970s. The label on it is the one that Enterprises affixed at the time. So, while it is a genuine BBC label, it's not a "master print". |
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