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Post by John Wall on Jul 24, 2023 20:51:22 GMT
Never believe anything until it’s been officially denied 🤣
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Post by simonashby on Jul 24, 2023 21:42:24 GMT
TBH, I'm not sure how we've either backed down or enabled Andy? We've moved the thread to where it should have been in the first place and warned Andy to have a think before posting. I’m only messing around. It’s all good  I've seen you've used the "I'm only messing around" line a few times. Advice - just don't 'mess around' in the first place. You're prone to look like you're rubbing people up the wrong way for no reason whatsoever. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2023 7:07:30 GMT
I’m only messing around. It’s all good I've seen you've used the "I'm only messing around" line a few times. Advice - just don't 'mess around' in the first place. You're prone to look like you're rubbing people up the wrong way for no reason whatsoever. Because I wasn’t messing around this time I just couldn’t be bothered with an argument so I tried to squash the conversation but then you brought it back up. I say just leave it now |
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Post by Stuart Douglas on Jul 25, 2023 13:47:28 GMT
I've seen you've used the "I'm only messing around" line a few times. Advice - just don't 'mess around' in the first place. You're prone to look like you're rubbing people up the wrong way for no reason whatsoever. Because I wasn’t messing around this time I just couldn’t be bothered with an argument so I tried to squash the conversation but then you brought it back up. I say just leave it now I say don't make statements if you're not willing to defend them. It wouldn't be an argument, I suspect - merely me correcting your misapprehension. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2023 15:26:52 GMT
Because I wasn’t messing around this time I just couldn’t be bothered with an argument so I tried to squash the conversation but then you brought it back up. I say just leave it now I say don't make statements if you're not willing to defend them. It wouldn't be an argument, I suspect - merely me correcting your misapprehension. Really you had to reply? Just delete this whole thread would be easier at this point. This thread has been hijacked and completely butchered anyway |
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Post by garygraham on Jul 25, 2023 15:59:26 GMT
Just need to give the question a missing episodes slant: "how much in royalties are actors losing out on if a programme is missing or story is incomplete?"
It's an interesting question when one thinks about entire series that were wiped. In the case of some stars almost nothing they made in the 1950s and 60s exists. Their heirs would have received royalties.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2023 18:59:42 GMT
Just need to give the question a missing episodes slant: "how much in royalties are actors losing out on if a programme is missing or story is incomplete?" It's an interesting question when one thinks about entire series that were wiped. In the case of some stars almost nothing they made in the 1950s and 60s exists. Their heirs would have received royalties. Yeah, true haha regarding changing the title. There’s like 100 threads they need to move from the missing episode forum into this forum then considering they moved this one. Anyway that was my point do the heirs get to receive royalties? What percentage could it be? Do tele-snaps get considered an original episode so do they get paid for tele-snaps? What about animations as these are technically not the original versions just the audio? Would they get paid less for just audio when they don’t use the visual? There’s loads of questions that I thought was interesting to talk about which is what I wanted this thread to be but nope |
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Post by simonashby on Jul 26, 2023 9:34:46 GMT
Just need to give the question a missing episodes slant: "how much in royalties are actors losing out on if a programme is missing or story is incomplete?" It's an interesting question when one thinks about entire series that were wiped. In the case of some stars almost nothing they made in the 1950s and 60s exists. Their heirs would have received royalties. Yeah, true haha regarding changing the title. There’s like 100 threads they need to move from the missing episode forum into this forum then considering they moved this one. Anyway that was my point do the heirs get to receive royalties? What percentage could it be? Do tele-snaps get considered an original episode so do they get paid for tele-snaps? What about animations as these are technically not the original versions just the audio? Would they get paid less for just audio when they don’t use the visual? There’s loads of questions that I thought was interesting to talk about which is what I wanted this thread to be but nope The original post: --- Are the Classic Doctor and Companions paid royalties/ residuals for the episodes that are put on Britbox or Blu-Ray?
I would assume it obviously wouldn’t have been in the original contracts.
Also how much do you reckon they are paid to film extras for the boxsets? I’m guessing very minimal--- You asked squarely and clearly about releases of existing and new (extra) material. It was just about that, nothing more. What's more, this attitude you have of it being everyone else's fault and you're just an innocent victim isn't helping. I say don't make statements if you're not willing to defend them. It wouldn't be an argument, I suspect - merely me correcting your misapprehension. Really you had to reply? Just delete this whole thread would be easier at this point. This thread has been hijacked and completely butchered anyway Yep, get unnecessarily snarky with a mod. That's going to make you look better... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2023 9:55:00 GMT
Yeah, true haha regarding changing the title. There’s like 100 threads they need to move from the missing episode forum into this forum then considering they moved this one. Anyway that was my point do the heirs get to receive royalties? What percentage could it be? Do tele-snaps get considered an original episode so do they get paid for tele-snaps? What about animations as these are technically not the original versions just the audio? Would they get paid less for just audio when they don’t use the visual? There’s loads of questions that I thought was interesting to talk about which is what I wanted this thread to be but nope The original post: --- Are the Classic Doctor and Companions paid royalties/ residuals for the episodes that are put on Britbox or Blu-Ray?
I would assume it obviously wouldn’t have been in the original contracts.
Also how much do you reckon they are paid to film extras for the boxsets? I’m guessing very minimal--- You asked squarely and clearly about releases of existing and new (extra) material. It was just about that, nothing more. What's more, this attitude you have of it being everyone else's fault and you're just an innocent victim isn't helping. Really you had to reply? Just delete this whole thread would be easier at this point. This thread has been hijacked and completely butchered anyway Yep, get unnecessarily snarky with a mod. That's going to make you look better... Yep it includes those questions and the new questions. Anything regarding how much gets paid for the old stuff and how the BBC decides how much. I find it interesting. Yes I care how I look to other nerds on one of the nerdiest sites on the internet. Thanks for your input bud |
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Post by Stuart Douglas on Jul 26, 2023 12:13:38 GMT
I say don't make statements if you're not willing to defend them. It wouldn't be an argument, I suspect - merely me correcting your misapprehension. Really you had to reply? Just delete this whole thread would be easier at this point. This thread has been hijacked and completely butchered anyway At the moment, it's primarily being hijacked by you. Why not stop digging holes and cease with the passive aggressive nonsense posts, hmm? God sake, the state of this place at times...it'd drive you to drink. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2023 12:14:46 GMT
Really you had to reply? Just delete this whole thread would be easier at this point. This thread has been hijacked and completely butchered anyway At the moment, it's primarily being hijacked by you. Why not stop digging holes and cease with the passive aggressive nonsense posts, hmm? God sake, the state of this place at times...it'd drive you to drink. Don’t drink it’s bad for you. I’ve already asked you to delete this thread and it can’t be hijacked by me considering I’m the one that started the thread haha |
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Post by garygraham on Jul 26, 2023 22:03:58 GMT
Just need to give the question a missing episodes slant: "how much in royalties are actors losing out on if a programme is missing or story is incomplete?" It's an interesting question when one thinks about entire series that were wiped. In the case of some stars almost nothing they made in the 1950s and 60s exists. Their heirs would have received royalties. Yeah, true haha regarding changing the title. There’s like 100 threads they need to move from the missing episode forum into this forum then considering they moved this one. Anyway that was my point do the heirs get to receive royalties? What percentage could it be? Do tele-snaps get considered an original episode so do they get paid for tele-snaps? What about animations as these are technically not the original versions just the audio? Would they get paid less for just audio when they don’t use the visual? There’s loads of questions that I thought was interesting to talk about which is what I wanted this thread to be but nope I think probably in the past a fee was agreed and a second amount if repeated. After that it would have to be negotiated. It will depend on all sorts of things. Which channel it is on, which country. I remember Frank Thornton saying he used to receive pennies for some overseas showings of Are You Being Served. I can only speak about contracts for use of video. These days broadcasters negotiate use for a period of time - say a year. Perhaps a specified number of showings and use on the online player for a period. After which it will be negotiated again. Some contracts specify that there's an assumption that a reasonable fee will be agreed for further use. To prevent Martin Shaw type situations. To answer the original question I'm sure they get paid for everything but who knows how much... The BBC will have an approximate fee in mind and negotiate slightly around that. Not sure how many years the heirs of actors benefit for. It might be until 70 years after the death of the actor. So it's something worth having if they were in a popular TV show. However some actors sold their right to royalties in exchange for a lump sum. Also it must be a bummer if something they were in becomes the modern equivalent of "box office poison" due to content that offends modern audiences. |
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