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Post by richardwoods on Mar 17, 2021 19:41:01 GMT
Does Journey to the Unknown exist in full?
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Post by Nigel Lamb on Mar 17, 2021 20:28:01 GMT
Yes it does Richard.
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Post by ColinC on Mar 17, 2021 20:31:06 GMT
[The festival was once said in another thread here to be the Trieste Film Festival, but that started in 1989. Also, the episode only aired in 1969, so I'd be quite interested to hear more about the 35mm copy? [/quote]
The festival had been going for a few years by that stage -(notably the Out of the Unknown episode ‘The Machine Stops’ also scooped first prize in the 1967 festival). In 1968, the festival didn’t have any facilities for showing colour VT, so a 35mm b/w copy was made specially for this showing (pre-dating the UK broadcast by several months).
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Mar 17, 2021 21:15:34 GMT
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Post by RWels on Mar 17, 2021 21:35:26 GMT
[The festival was once said in another thread here to be the Trieste Film Festival, but that started in 1989. Also, the episode only aired in 1969, so I'd be quite interested to hear more about the 35mm copy? The festival had been going for a few years by that stage -(notably the Out of the Unknown episode ‘The Machine Stops’ also scooped first prize in the 1967 festival). In 1968, the festival didn’t have any facilities for showing colour VT, so a 35mm b/w copy was made specially for this showing (pre-dating the UK broadcast by several months). [/quote] Technically they had video projectors then called eidophors. Still. Not unusual to send film. Strange to go b/w though. One wonders if anyone ever tried to ascertain the fate of that copy...
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Post by ColinC on Mar 17, 2021 21:39:04 GMT
Thanks for the link Ray - a fascinating site. Yes that’s very curious - the production file for Beach Head certainly contains documentation on the sending of a print, alongside a little publicity blurb and an explanation why a b/w print was being despatched. Perchance it wasn’t shortlisted?
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Post by RWels on Mar 17, 2021 21:57:55 GMT
Discontinued film festivals... who knows what happened to their paperwork and prints!!
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Post by Qasim Yusuf on Mar 17, 2021 23:50:27 GMT
All seasons were at least sold to Australia - transmission began with Time in Advance in September 1967. Unfortunately contractual limitations entailed that the Season 2 and 3 Asimov stories weren’t part of the package. Last showing in Australia was To Lay a Ghost circa 1973/74. Shame about the Asimov ones. Liar is probably the missing episode I most want to see so it seems highly unlikely that I'll get my wish.
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Post by tom rogers on Mar 18, 2021 0:23:09 GMT
The end of Black Bag is missing completely, isn't it. And the start. But that story had been filmed for television before. I had never heared of the Italian 35mm film...! Yes Black Bag was one of those - by one of a small group of quirky,oddball American writers who were short lived either professionally or in life but nonetheless produced some interesting tales that were often adapted more than once on both sides of the pond. From the bits I have seen the OOTU ver is a good effort with writer Julian Bond adapting it well to go in the BBC machine and with good old Geraldine Moffat helping shore up the proceedings. Another one of those oddball writers wrote "Miss Belle" which the American networks presumably would not touch, but they found it on their screen in "Journey to the Unknown" which probably helped kill it off as IIRC it even raised a few eyebrows in the UK. Beachhead had been nominated for an award, so possibly the most convenient method of showing it to a large audience (at that time) was in the in house cinema...Usually once the material is shown at those events nobody gives a hoot to what happens to it next..so not surprised that is also missing. Er ..probably not the week to mention "To lay a ghost" [/quote] ”The Little Black Bag” by Cyril Kornbluth. Strange guy but a terrific SF writer. The sequel to this story (although it is not so identified) is called “The Marching Morons” and is also an excellent tale. He died aged 35 from a heart attack but left behind a goodly number of stories and a few novels. At his best he was original and unique. Worth seeking out a collection of his short stories.
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Post by Peter Stirling on Mar 18, 2021 1:40:35 GMT
I would think it would only be 'raging against the system' TV producers like Rod Serling and Joseph Stefano that would give them the time of day in the US at the time.. Looked up Beachhead, was written by Clifford D.Simak and apparently one of his last TV works despite having a reasonably long life.. Just found it was Charles Beaumont who wrote "Miss Belle" .He also wrote the excellent B picture 'Night of the eagle' ..but was another oddball cut short in his prime. As you said about Cyril these writers were often original and unique.
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Post by tom rogers on Mar 18, 2021 1:59:35 GMT
I would think it would only be 'raging against the system' TV producers like Rod Serling and Joseph Stefano that would give them the time of day in the US at the time.. Looked up Beachhead, was written by Clifford D.Simak and apparently one of his last TV works despite having a reasonably long life.. Just found it was Charles Beaumont who wrote "Miss Belle" .He also wrote the excellent B picture 'Night of the eagle' ..but was another oddball cut short in his prime. As you said about Cyril these writers were often original and unique. Charles Beaumont was a favorite of Serling and wrote a number of classic Twilight Zone episodes. And another whose life ended sadly. Simak, on the other hand, had a very long career as a writer and has been recognised as one of the most highly regarded SF authors of the 20th century. His classic books “City” and “Way Station” are sublime elegies on humanity and both are very highly regarded. I recommended both without reserve.
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Post by RWels on May 5, 2021 14:59:21 GMT
I did eventually get through to an Italian organiser of the successor of the Trieste event that once showed "Beach Head". Unfortunately, the archive from the 1960s period contains no film. So that seems a dead end.
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Post by John Green on May 5, 2021 15:11:09 GMT
Thank you for contacting them.
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Post by richardwoods on May 5, 2021 16:14:39 GMT
I did eventually get through to an Italian organiser of the successor of the Trieste event that once showed "Beach Head". Unfortunately, the archive from the 1960s period contains no film. So that seems a dead end. Yeah, well done for trying. Perhaps PM should pay them a visit anyway.
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Post by Daniel E on May 24, 2021 19:44:53 GMT
I would be interested to know to what extent it was shown in America ? Thanks... I'd be keen to read any more information on the above if someone knows more ? Thanks...
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