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Post by Peter Stirling on May 25, 2021 8:45:15 GMT
I would be interested to know to what extent it was shown in America ? Thanks... I'd be keen to read any more information on the above if someone knows more ? Thanks... The US is a very difficult market to get into,..even 'Thunderbirds' only got a very limited syndicated screening of some of the episodes at the time. Imports from the UK were mainly personality driven (Diana Rigg,Roger Moore etc)so it is unlikely an anthology series with mainly unknown (to them) British actors would have got airtime.Especially being made on tape and all the conversion and subsequent degradation problems of the era. This was the difference with 'Journey to the Unknown' this had familiar (to both sides of the Atlantic) US actors in the lead and was even sometimes presented with a host in the USA.
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Post by emjayf on Aug 21, 2021 21:16:20 GMT
Hi all. I finally bought this DVD boxset and have been loving watching it with my wife. We have just started on the third series and it's so sad we have only one full episode. It was a great episode too (Alf Roberts and Arthur Daley! Hah!), and I was worried they wouldn't work in colour but yes it does! Though it is so sad seeing how depleted this series is. My wife has no interest in recons! So I will be watching them on my own!
Would really love more to be found but I know that will be near impossible.
Cheers all, MJ
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Post by peterleslie on Sept 10, 2021 17:04:59 GMT
I'd be keen to read any more information on the above if someone knows more ? Thanks... The US is a very difficult market to get into,..even 'Thunderbirds' only got a very limited syndicated screening of some of the episodes at the time. Imports from the UK were mainly personality driven (Diana Rigg,Roger Moore etc)so it is unlikely an anthology series with mainly unknown (to them) British actors would have got airtime.Especially being made on tape and all the conversion and subsequent degradation problems of the era. This was the difference with 'Journey to the Unknown' this had familiar (to both sides of the Atlantic) US actors in the lead and was even sometimes presented with a host in the USA. Much of this is true. By far the most successful British anthology series in the US was 'Brian Clemens Thriller' which was both networked on the ABC network over 5 years (premieres and multiple repeats) and then syndicated over another 15 years of so to individual stations, wracking up over 13 000 individual local screenings - source 'A THRILLER in Every Corner' by Martin Marshall linkOther than that, apart from ABC broadcasts of 'Journey to the Unknown' as mentioned and 'Orson Welles Great Mysteries' co-funded with an American partner (Unicorn Films) and pitched into syndication via the 'Prime Time Access' slot, the only other anthology that had extensive syndication success was 'Tales of the Unexpected' (overall probably the second in success terms to 'Thriller' Just about every other British anthology never aired at all in the States as far as can ascertained by historic newspaper billings even when there was an American funding partner - like 'Dial M for Murder' and Warner Bros TV.
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Post by rebeccajansen on Sept 15, 2021 1:30:32 GMT
I've never found any mention of Out Of The Unknown being screened in Canada or The U.S., nor Ace Of Wands for that matter. Canada might've been more likely. Journey Into The Unknown was a Hammer co-production with the U.S. 20th Century Fox studio. I have a set of the entire series but it's probably a bit of a grey market (has those counters on the bottom of the screen on most, as a grey market early Z-Cars set also did).
I certainly would love for any more of this excellent series to surface! There was one episode that starred Debra Watling just before she joined the Doctor Who cast in particular.
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Sept 27, 2021 6:41:47 GMT
The US is a very difficult market to get into,..even 'Thunderbirds' only got a very limited syndicated screening of some of the episodes at the time. Imports from the UK were mainly personality driven (Diana Rigg,Roger Moore etc)so it is unlikely an anthology series with mainly unknown (to them) British actors would have got airtime.Especially being made on tape and all the conversion and subsequent degradation problems of the era. This was the difference with 'Journey to the Unknown' this had familiar (to both sides of the Atlantic) US actors in the lead and was even sometimes presented with a host in the USA. Much of this is true. By far the most successful British anthology series in the US was 'Brian Clemens Thriller' which was both networked on the ABC network over 5 years (premieres and multiple repeats) and then syndicated over another 15 years of so to individual stations, wracking up over 13 000 individual local screenings - source 'A THRILLER in Every Corner' by Martin Marshall linkOther than that, apart from ABC broadcasts of 'Journey to the Unknown' as mentioned and 'Orson Welles Great Mysteries' co-funded with an American partner (Unicorn Films) and pitched into syndication via the 'Prime Time Access' slot, the only other anthology that had extensive syndication success was 'Tales of the Unexpected' (overall probably the second in success terms to 'Thriller' Just about every other British anthology never aired at all in the States as far as can ascertained by historic newspaper billings even when there was an American funding partner - like 'Dial M for Murder' and Warner Bros TV. With respect, although much of what you say is true, Dial M for Murder was broadcast in the US by ABC on 11/11/1967 (prior to UK transmission) as part of their ABC Stage 1967 format.
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Post by peterleslie on Sept 27, 2021 18:12:00 GMT
Much of this is true. By far the most successful British anthology series in the US was 'Brian Clemens Thriller' which was both networked on the ABC network over 5 years (premieres and multiple repeats) and then syndicated over another 15 years of so to individual stations, wracking up over 13 000 individual local screenings - source 'A THRILLER in Every Corner' by Martin Marshall linkOther than that, apart from ABC broadcasts of 'Journey to the Unknown' as mentioned and 'Orson Welles Great Mysteries' co-funded with an American partner (Unicorn Films) and pitched into syndication via the 'Prime Time Access' slot, the only other anthology that had extensive syndication success was 'Tales of the Unexpected' (overall probably the second in success terms to 'Thriller' Just about every other British anthology never aired at all in the States as far as can ascertained by historic newspaper billings even when there was an American funding partner - like 'Dial M for Murder' and Warner Bros TV. With respect, although much of what you say is true, Dial M for Murder was broadcast in the US by ABC on 11/11/1967 (prior to UK transmission) as part of their ABC Stage 1967 format. I was referring to the 1974 BBC/Warner 'Dial M for Murder' anthology series, not the Diane Cilento/Laurence Harvey TVM of 1967 based on the Frederick Knott play Dial M for Murder (1974)
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Post by Daniel E on Oct 12, 2021 8:10:33 GMT
I've never found any mention of Out Of The Unknown being screened in Canada or The U.S., nor Ace Of Wands for that matter. Canada might've been more likely. Journey Into The Unknown was a Hammer co-production with the U.S. 20th Century Fox studio. I have a set of the entire series but it's probably a bit of a grey market (has those counters on the bottom of the screen on most, as a grey market early Z-Cars set also did). I certainly would love for any more of this excellent series to surface! There was one episode that starred Debra Watling just before she joined the Doctor Who cast in particular. Thank you…understanding it may never have been screened in the US helps me…
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Post by Jon Preddle on Oct 13, 2021 3:46:46 GMT
All seasons were at least sold to Australia - transmission began with Time in Advance in September 1967. Unfortunately contractual limitations entailed that the Season 2 and 3 Asimov stories weren’t part of the package. Last showing in Australia was To Lay a Ghost circa 1973/74. Shame about the Asimov ones. Liar is probably the missing episode I most want to see so it seems highly unlikely that I'll get my wish. Not all the Azimov stories were excluded - it was just the ones based on his "Robot" stories. Here in NZ we certainly got his non-robot tales when S1-3 of OOTU screened (we never got S4).
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Post by Qasim Yusuf on Oct 13, 2021 13:39:16 GMT
Shame about the Asimov ones. Liar is probably the missing episode I most want to see so it seems highly unlikely that I'll get my wish. Not all the Azimov stories were excluded - it was just the ones based on his "Robot" stories. Here in NZ we certainly got his non-robot tales when S1-3 of OOTU screened (we never got S4). Interesting. That increases the chances of The Naked Sun still existing then since that's the only non-Robot Asimov episode that's lost. Do you know if New Zealand junked their copies or sent them back?
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Post by Jon Preddle on Oct 13, 2021 19:57:16 GMT
Not all the Azimov stories were excluded - it was just the ones based on his "Robot" stories. Here in NZ we certainly got his non-robot tales when S1-3 of OOTU screened (we never got S4). Interesting. That increases the chances of The Naked Sun still existing then since that's the only non-Robot Asimov episode that's lost. Do you know if New Zealand junked their copies or sent them back? The NZ prints prints were all sent to various countries after screening here. A few of them went to countries in Europe. * 11 eps of Series 1 in 1967: different films were sent to Finland (3) and Hungary (8) * 10 eps of Series 2 in 1970: films went to Finland (1), Sierra Leone (6) and Sweden (1), unknown (2) * 11 eps of Series 3 in 1972-3: to Yugoslavia (3), unknown (8) * Series 4 never aired The Azimov stories Sucker Bait and Dead Past aired in NZ. This was all previously discussed here: missingepisodes.proboards.com/thread/7815/out-unknown-america
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Post by RWels on Oct 13, 2021 20:30:58 GMT
Interesting. That increases the chances of The Naked Sun still existing then since that's the only non-Robot Asimov episode that's lost. Do you know if New Zealand junked their copies or sent them back? The NZ prints prints were all sent to various countries after screening here. A few of them went to countries in Europe. * 11 eps of Series 1 in 1967: different films were sent to Finland (3) and Hungary (8) * 10 eps of Series 2 in 1970: films went to Finland (1), Sierra Leone (6) and Sweden (1), unknown (2) * 11 eps of Series 3 in 1972-3: to Yugoslavia (3), unknown (8) * Series 4 never aired The Azimov stories Sucker Bait and Dead Past aired in NZ. This was all previously discussed here: missingepisodes.proboards.com/thread/7815/out-unknown-americaBut how do you know all this? (Previously it was you who posted that too.) Has this ever been verified? I have in the past certainly gotten replies from Sweden and sometimes Finland, although they rarely kept other countries' programs. Hungary and Yugoslavia, now that's a different matter, I'd say it might be more difficult to get through. (Although I did get a reply from Romania once.) And of course there was the print in Italy. Although, 1+1+6+2 doesn't have to be 10 if these countries got some of the same episodes.
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Post by Jon Preddle on Oct 14, 2021 2:19:36 GMT
The NZ prints prints were all sent to various countries after screening here. A few of them went to countries in Europe. * 11 eps of Series 1 in 1967: different films were sent to Finland (3) and Hungary (8) * 10 eps of Series 2 in 1970: films went to Finland (1), Sierra Leone (6) and Sweden (1), unknown (2) * 11 eps of Series 3 in 1972-3: to Yugoslavia (3), unknown (8) * Series 4 never aired The Azimov stories Sucker Bait and Dead Past aired in NZ. This was all previously discussed here: missingepisodes.proboards.com/thread/7815/out-unknown-americaBut how do you know all this? (Previously it was you who posted that too.) Has this ever been verified? It's from the NZBC/TVNZ's own film holding records, which still exist, and I have accessed.
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Post by RWels on Oct 14, 2021 9:21:31 GMT
But how do you know all this? (Previously it was you who posted that too.) Has this ever been verified? It's from the NZBC/TVNZ's own film holding records, which still exist, and I have accessed. Ah right and then the sum must also be correct because it couldn't overlap. It's possible that these places have been checked, but it's equally possible they haven't...
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Post by John Wall on Oct 14, 2021 10:07:01 GMT
It's from the NZBC/TVNZ's own film holding records, which still exist, and I have accessed. Ah right and then the sum must also be correct because it couldn't overlap. It's possible that these places have been checked, but it's equally possible they haven't... It would be interesting to know about places like Hungary - Yugoslavia, of course, no longer exists.
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Post by RWels on Oct 14, 2021 10:40:51 GMT
Ah right and then the sum must also be correct because it couldn't overlap. It's possible that these places have been checked, but it's equally possible they haven't... It would be interesting to know about places like Hungary - Yugoslavia, of course, no longer exists. Just as interesting though. I suppose the successor would be in Serbia, possibly Croatia. But really one would have to know in which part of Yugoslavia they were shown. The troubling thing is, if they say "no we don't have it", then that still doesn't rule out that it's there in some form, undigitised and uncatalogued.
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