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Post by stevegerald on Aug 12, 2020 3:08:41 GMT
So I came across this on twitter. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254683468096I don't know what to think of this, hoax or not? He says " Found in box of films with some more Dr.Who clips."
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Post by stevehoare61 on Aug 12, 2020 6:18:43 GMT
He has a very good feedback rate and the comments are good. So unless hes about to destroy that, he must be either sure or thinks these are rare. He needs to film an actual lost sequence, is anyone like Paul V following this, just incase? Found in a box with other stuff is the worrying bit.
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Post by Alan Hayes on Aug 12, 2020 9:23:27 GMT
Paul V has been informed.
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Post by tombeveridge on Aug 12, 2020 11:07:07 GMT
What possible unrecovered clips from the Hartnell Dalek stories could there be? Isn't everything largely intact from those episodes?
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Post by stevegerald on Aug 12, 2020 11:12:13 GMT
What possible unrecovered clips from the Hartnell Dalek stories could there be? Isn't everything largely intact from those episodes? We don't know what stories are in the other reels he mentioned.
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Post by Ronnie McDevitt on Aug 12, 2020 11:21:13 GMT
Assuming any other footage is from the same period possibly Marco Polo and not much else but who knows.
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Post by Richard Bignell on Aug 12, 2020 11:42:48 GMT
Just to add a comment I've made on other forums that the photos seem to show that the Kodak film also has a Keykode next to the film edge numbers, which would put the film stock as being post-1990.
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Post by John Green on Aug 12, 2020 15:09:04 GMT
"This is about 90ft of 16mm negative film of Dr.Who with William Hartnell. It is filmed off tv and looks to be 60's. Features Daleks and companions. Runs approx 2.30 mins. I tried to telecine it using an old 16mm projector I borrowed then inverted image on computer. Please see pics. Film is in good condition with age related scratches on 100ft reel no smell. Found in box of films with some more Dr.Who clips. Yet to view and sort. A nice rare piece. Do not know origin of film so guessing someone has filmed these off tv. You can make out old tv in the film."
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Post by Douglas Wulf on Aug 12, 2020 15:13:14 GMT
Just to add a comment I've made on other forums that the photos seem to show that the Kodak film also has a Keykode next to the film edge numbers, which would put the film stock as being post-1990. OK, thanks. Since it was existing footage, the chances were that it is merely a film of a DVD or VHS of existing footage, but it's good to have investigated it.
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Post by Pete Morris on Aug 12, 2020 16:23:51 GMT
Note, one of the images shows an episode title: The Survivors. It's episode 2 of the first Dalek story, and it isn't missing.
What possible unrecovered clips from the Hartnell Dalek stories could there be? Isn't everything largely intact from those episodes?
9 out of 12 episodes of The Daleks Masterplan are missing. Any clip from these would be significant. But I doubt we'll find it here.
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Post by Richard Tipple on Aug 12, 2020 18:21:20 GMT
As Richard says the film stock is far too modern.
If people are making modern dupes I expect this practice to be shut down VERY quickly.
Not to cast any aspersions on the seller (who appears genuine enough), just that the provenance of this footage is dubious.
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Post by Jon Preddle on Aug 12, 2020 23:31:45 GMT
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Post by stevegerald on Aug 12, 2020 23:41:06 GMT
If people are making modern dupes I expect this practice to be shut down VERY quickly. Not to cast any aspersions on the seller (who appears genuine enough), just that the provenance of this footage is dubious. I don't think there's any ill intent from any party involved in this, I think someone for some reason decided to film his tv for a couple of minutes, moved house and forgot about it, then this person came across it and thought it was from the '60s.
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Post by adamjordan on Aug 13, 2020 9:30:05 GMT
If people are making modern dupes I expect this practice to be shut down VERY quickly. Not to cast any aspersions on the seller (who appears genuine enough), just that the provenance of this footage is dubious. I don't think there's any ill intent from any party involved in this, I think someone for some reason decided to film his tv for a couple of minutes, moved house and forgot about it, then this person came across it and thought it was from the '60s. I agree this is most probably just an innocent sequence of events but there are more than just a couple of minutes of footage as there are more clips . Until we get some idea of the contents of the other Dr Who footage it's hard to say what this is about. From the images posted by the seller the picture does seem to wander, as if the person filming was changing camera position or maybe even holding the camera rather than using a rest or tripod. Some of the images show a deeply recessed frame on the monitor suggesting these were taken from a vintage TV set. How easy is it to play back VCR or DVD on an old set? That the footage shows the Doctor's first encounter with the Daleks from the moment they step through the door to the control room suggests foreknowledge of events. Curious.
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Post by Al Hine on Aug 13, 2020 11:40:13 GMT
405 line modulators are available, and "convert" the 625 line signal from a VCR or DVD player into 405 lines for playback on a vintage TV.
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