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Post by Alan Turrell on Dec 24, 2016 18:35:18 GMT
I don't know any No.1s from the past 15 or so years and everyone i have spoken to say the same the music charts have now become totally irrelevant and i'm surprised there is still a chart.
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Post by Richard Marple on Dec 24, 2016 20:10:56 GMT
I've heard the ratio of streams to downloads for working out the charts is going to be changed in the new year.
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Post by Patrick Coles on Dec 25, 2016 15:13:09 GMT
Drake ? - I must be long out of touch as to me that name means either a noted Ship's Captain who played bowls before beating the Spanish...
....or a cool sixties secret agent ! lol
Merry Chistmas all...!
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Post by Tony Walshaw on Jan 2, 2017 10:36:59 GMT
People are always going on about how he is so full of himself and tries to rewrite history to make out that the DC5 were a bigger deal culturally than they really were, and certainly this strange documentary (which I only saw a few days ago) supports that view. Yes, the documentary was quite a compelling watch. But also a bit un-nerving. Anything that does not involve the DC5 is not allowed to be in it. He comes across as some kind of maverick looking for total control of the music universe. Like a 'Doctor Who' villain. If a 'talking head' came on the documentary and suggested that there might be any alternative to the DC5, they would not be welcome. The footage where Lennie Davidson made his brief speech at the R n Roll HOF induction was quite telling. Clark was menacingly watching through the corner of his eye, as if to say "just make sure you say what I told you to Lennie. It was me that enabled all of this...."
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Post by Patrick Coles on Jan 2, 2017 12:37:30 GMT
indeed, the sheer ego is stunning and no doubt a key reason so many dislike the group !
- which is sadly unfair as the biggest irony is when you listen to the music of The DC5 it's Mike, Lenny and Denis who steal the show with their instrumental abilities and vocal performances
- the drumming is very important too of course, be it Bobby Graham or DC himself, but Mike, Lenny, and Denis are clearly the main musical force !
the production is very sharp to be fair, tho' recording engineer Adrian Kerridge must take some of the credit there, but DC did have his strengths in the studio without doubt, just a pity he can't be more modest about their story as it does get up people's noses alot...and a fine band and their music duly suffer for it
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Post by SydV on Jan 2, 2017 21:12:02 GMT
whatever, we DO know that The Beatles at least respected DC and his group, they never slagged off The DC5 "There was an amusing moment when John commented that Ringo's drumming style for the recording 'sounds like Dave Clark!" It wasn't meant as a compliment. Perhaps this explains why the drum track - along with the lead vocal and bass guitar tracks - was taped again later in the session" (Lewisohn describing the 25th July 1969 session for Abbey Road)
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Post by Patrick Coles on Jan 3, 2017 18:17:11 GMT
Perhaps the press; 'Tottenham sound crushes Beatles Beat' headline still rankled with John...?
remember tho' Lennon was always slagging off nearly everybody - including Paul, George, Ringo (supposedly saying; 'Ringo's not even the best drummer in The Beatles' ! - tho' some deny that comment now ) and he sang; 'I Don't believe in ...Beatles' !
he generously referred to George Martin's production abilities as; 'none of your crap...'
so a snide dig by Lennon was the norm - hence poor Mal Evans got the unenviable job of putting himself up to take the punches Lennon ducked away from...
the drumming on DC5 records - be it by DC or Bobby Graham was often powerful and put well to the fore in the mix making their hits quite distinctive
maybe this remark was another case of Lennon - incredibly and absurdly - somehow feeling his band were 'threatened' by others (i.e. 'Lennon blasts Hollies') as the UK press praised up The DC5 TV film 'Hold On' while they had crucified The Beatles 'Magical Mystery Tour' one press comment said of The DC5 special it was 'the film The Beatles TRIED to make...' which was a remark that would have really stung John !
John could be mega insecure - and unprofessionally bad mouthing another artist - Dusty, Billy J. Kramer, Tom Jones, and comedian Tommy Cooper all had their 'run ins' with Lennon - as did Mick Jagger and The Stones whom Lennon also had a go at too before calming down and becoming friendly with them again...!
- the massive Tommy Cooper almost brained him after John apparently had made a bad remark about Tommy's wife (hence maybe Tommy being 'namechecked' later in 'Give Peace A Chance'as a belated apology ?)
Kinks frontman Ray Davies bluntly sent Lennon off in a huff at Blackpool in 1965 when he took no nonsense from John's snide attitude and gave as good as he got
as did Graham Nash of The Hollies too....(in 1971 Lennon doing a music paper singles guest review praised up The Hollies new single 'Hey Willy' saying; 'it will shoot up the chart like a rocket' - which proved to be the kiss of death on it as it then stalled in the chart !)
Lennon normally sheepishly 'apologised' later on by either giving the other artist a 'namecheck' plug, or praising their new single, or giving them a hit song...!
while today many see John through the rose coloured specs and sainthood reserved for the deceased - something he likely would have detested - let's bear in mind John was NO saint, and in his younger days could be a very unpleasant spiteful guy indeed (i.e. "Run For Your Life', 'How Do You Sleep ?', 'Move Over Ms. L')
- ironic he seemed to have conquered that snide often quite cruel side of his personality when he was gunned down...
...and don't forget his 'retirement' from music in 1975 went almost unnoticed by the media and much of the wider public back then..
as John wrote; 'Everybody loves you when you're six feet in the ground...'
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 18:43:42 GMT
John Lennon didn't say "Ringo's not even the best drummer in the Beatles: it was Jasper Carrott.
John was MASSIVELY insecure. He was used to being considered The Man back in Liverpool: no-one funnier, more caustic etc. Once he hit London, he had to think again ...
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Post by Richard Marple on Jan 3, 2017 22:14:27 GMT
John Lennon is one of those celebrities who I've found tricky to understand, in spite of reading / watching so much about him over the years.
He managed to raise some eyebrows by praising Wings's Band On The Run & having short shrift for journalists who assumed a bit of "Paul / Wings bashing" would win him over.
I did think the "Ringo's not even the best drummer in the Beatles" quote was an acknowledgement of Paul's multi instrumental skills & Ringo's "back to front" drumming style.
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Post by Stephen John Connett on Jan 4, 2017 11:39:51 GMT
Apparently the Lennon quote was actually by Jasper Carrot in one of his comedy routines, although it's very much the sort of thing Lennon would say
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 16:05:29 GMT
Apparently the Lennon quote was actually by Jasper Carrot in one of his comedy routines, although it's very much the sort of thing Lennon would say See my post above.
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Post by Stephen John Connett on Jan 4, 2017 18:14:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 22:49:00 GMT
"Do you feel better after seeing the queen?" "No, you feel better after seeing the doctor ..." "Not my doctor, you don't." "Not your doctor, no ..."
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Post by Stephen John Connett on Jan 6, 2017 13:19:18 GMT
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Post by Kev Hunter on Jan 6, 2017 13:44:18 GMT
It would appear to survive : linkAlso easy to obtain in unofficial form on a certain website where 'uoffer'!
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