|
Post by Andy Henderson on Mar 3, 2006 1:18:10 GMT
I should keep my mouth shut about 'transdiffusion'. The site itself appears to have been designed by an aspergers collective or the inhabitants of 'hut 3'. On the surface, it appears packed with information, but as you dig deeper it all falls apart into a schizoid version of a good early television website.
Anyone finding the main page is likely to wonder what it all means. It claims to record broadcasting history, but contains a multitude of inside jokes and irrelevant articles attempting to assemble themselves into something coherent. If someone told me that it was all a parody, it wouldn't worry me as much as it does.
|
|
|
Post by lfbarfe on Mar 3, 2006 1:33:09 GMT
I should keep my mouth shut about 'transdiffusion'. The site itself appears to have been designed by an aspergers collective or the inhabitants of 'hut 3'. On the surface, it appears packed with information, but as you dig deeper it all falls apart into a schizoid version of a good early television website. Not designed by or edited by, but I'd estimate that over 50% of its contributors are living with Asperger's syndrome to varying degrees. Richard Elen is a thoroughly good sort, and a technical journalist of many years' experience, and Kif's heart is in the right place, which is why I write the odd thing for them now and again, but the hard core of contributors bring me out in a rash. So much of what appears there is media punditry by people who've almost no practical experience of the media (almost no practical experience of feeding themselves or wiping their own backsides, in some cases) and much of the rest is rambling 'everything used to be better and aren't the policemen looking young?' nostalgic tosh, written by people who aren't usually allowed access to sharp objects. By inside jokes, do you mean Brownlegg? Yes, satirising someone who died in 1967 is really cutting edge stuff.
|
|
|
Post by Nobby on Mar 3, 2006 7:06:45 GMT
Don't know what all this ol boys chat all has to do with missing tv. Smug point scoring by having a go at Asperger's sufferers? Very grown up.
|
|
|
Post by Clive Shaw on Mar 3, 2006 7:47:43 GMT
4) if i copy these things off the websites you suggest then I could get into legal trouble as their servers can detect when someone is trying to convert their real Video .ram filmes to MPEG or any other video format. so i am not prepeared to get into a legal battle, which is what they did to someone who copied stuff off their website & sold the prated DVD's on eBay (which is actually how you say it). I wouldn't worry about it, all that those TV Websites have done is just what you were asking for, people send them viddies and they throw them up on-line under the cover of the short clips being for critical review, as long as you acknowledge the copyright owners no one will bother you, especially for a school project ! There is a whole difference of using material to explain something in a presentation or trying to make profits from it by selling on EBAY. All good presentations or essays need to include or refer to the sources of any included material, otherwise that is just plagiarism.
|
|
|
Post by Stephen Doran on Mar 3, 2006 8:48:37 GMT
Then go to the transdiffusion website. You can hardly expect someone to spend an evening copying tapes to that format without some incentive, or even the word 'please'. sorry about that i had tons of ch4 test card music on betamax but when we got new tv in nov 1999 it would no longer play .
|
|
|
Post by James Phillips on Mar 3, 2006 9:12:54 GMT
Hi, it's the student here that started this thread. i'm sorry I forgot to say please. this is because i was thinking about what other coursework i need to do as I am leaving school in May & I desperately need these viddies (videos). Thanx for looking (if you are looking). i think looking through all these tapes will do you some good reminding as at one time, we were one of the countries that produced some of the programmes that became world-wide successes! I mean, how many start-ups, closedowns with the national anthem or pre-programme ITV idents do you see today? So, come on dig through all those old videotapes & post them to: aidan_lunn@hotmail.co.uk. If you don't know how to dowload videos onto a computer it comes in simple steps: 1) copy them to DVD (you will need a DVD recorder to do this) 2) put them into your computer's diasc tray (you will not need a DVD drive, just the tray & a decent amount of computer memory) 3) save to your computer's hard drive 4) post them to me at the above address. And yet after all this, you still fail to say please..?! By the way, post them in WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER ONLY! other formats will NOT be accepted. Nothing personal, just that MPEG (which is the kind of file WMP uses) is the easiest to copy onto DVD for me to play them out for my project at school. & by the way, that is disc not diasc! Considering you're asking for people to do you a favour, you're being very demanding.
|
|
|
Post by yorkshire on Mar 3, 2006 10:34:07 GMT
I know i may sound demanding, but I am just over a year into this project. i've tried looking through my family's own videotapes, my relative's & my freinds, all to no avail. There is no point in just talking about television presentation when I have no evidence to prove it! I may soiund cheeky when i explain how to put videos onto your computer, but i don't know if you know how to do it do I? Anyway, sorry for no saying please (again!). the reason is that this time i was thinking of what to put next, because, you may well admit, it was a long message. by the way, i am also interested in these "mising episodes" things. I do believe you. there is actual proof that these programmes are missing. UK Gold show lots of programmes from the '70s (particularly the late '70s), but they show barely anything from the '60's. i have seen a couple of episodes of Till Death Us Do Part. These are the 1967 christmas special & the 1968 episode where Alf has a blood donor. These episodes were preceded by a warning about the racial comments. Apart from these & the Carry on films (which aren't a TV series, but were a long-running series), I have not seen anything from the '60s on UK Gold. (Now it is call "UKTV gold". Is it really necessary to put the TV bit on the name as it is obvious you are watching it on TV. the same with the BBC before BC-2 came out, was it really necessary to put the "TV" bit on the end?)
|
|
|
Post by yorkshire on Mar 3, 2006 10:35:37 GMT
Sorry, that should be BBC-2.
|
|
|
Post by bobtarbuck on Mar 3, 2006 10:51:33 GMT
This Thread Is Getting Silly..
|
|
|
Post by yorkshire on Mar 3, 2006 11:27:03 GMT
I know! i thought it would be a matter of only a couple of answers!
|
|
|
Post by B Thomas on Mar 3, 2006 12:05:21 GMT
No one likes being patronised by someone young enough to be our children on things many of us were doing long before they were born... And I don't need anyone to teach me how to do that, Bevan Hmmm...? That was a bit random Louis... Oh, the converting media files thing? Yeah you've been doing that for some time now, haven't you? You've got a few years on me - I'm still trying to get the missus to show me how...
|
|
|
Post by Clive Shaw on Mar 3, 2006 12:09:13 GMT
I know i may sound demanding, but I am just over a year into this project. OOps ! Leaving it a little bit until the last moment aren't we ? So go on, tell us more about the aims of this project, what is the title ? If you got people interested in what you are doing then they may be more willing to help or point you in the correct direction.
|
|
|
Post by lfbarfe on Mar 3, 2006 12:19:18 GMT
Smug point scoring by having a go at Asperger's sufferers? Very grown up. I wasn't having a go at people with Asperger's (who's the one using the apparently now-unacceptable word "sufferer"? Hmmmm.) The statement that quite a lot of Transdiffusion contributors have AS is nothing more or less than fact. The suggestion that quite a lot of Transdiffusion content is unreadable piffle is not connected to this statement - you've read that into it. The worst offender on this front is not AS, as far as I know. In fact, most people with Asperger's that I know are very advanced in their handling and dissemination of factual material.
|
|
|
Post by Andy Henderson on Mar 3, 2006 14:28:55 GMT
You know the situation about Aspegers people, who get interested in the minutiae of a subject to such an extent the the actual value of the interest goes beyond any typical investigation. It doesn't mean that they should be mocked, it is just the way they are. In missing episodes terms, they hang around on forums about missing television and discuss things in abstract details that would drive most sane people up the wall. Liuving life in this way, is a bit like being given a huge apple pie, acknowledging the filling, but being more interested in eating the crust, or at least the ingredients. So, if you are reading this thread or typing on it, you might be labeled a bit anoraky anyway, if not true Aspergers. Now time for my medication
|
|
|
Post by Clive Shaw on Mar 3, 2006 14:51:16 GMT
It seems to be a modern day thing to label anyone slightly eccentric or having passion for a subject as having Aspergers. Just because the TD guys have a passion for 60's TV companies / presentations / clocks / Jack Parnell, it is not right to label them as having Aspergers.
The definition of Aspergers is quite wide ranging and seems to be a catch all for a multiple number of sins which cannot easily be classified by other 'syndromes'
Eccentric or Anorak are much better terms..
|
|