A-R/Rediffusion London Shows and Series

[williammcgregor]

It's a shame that our musical and culture heritage was to some extent left to the whims and vagaries of powerful, but in hindsight shortsighted individuals. It's probably STILL the same?

Regarding looking up old newspapers fro the forum that's right up my street. So I'll go for it.

Thanks Pam.

[Ronnie McDevitt]

Jan 19, 2016 9:50:39 GMT williammcgregor said:

Number 91 on the 1958 list...

International Football from Stamford Bridge England v Yugoslavia Under 18's

this excellent site tells us the following..

englandfootballonline.com/TeamMedia/TV1955-60.htm

Tuesday 4 February 1958 - Youth Stamford Bridge, Fulham (second-half only)
England 2 Yugoslavia 2 -ITV -8 pm - 9 pm ATV (Midland) Granada (Northern) Rediffusion (London) and Scottish
Television commentator Peter Lloyd (South Wales and West of England opted out).

as good as this site is, it doesn't tell us who the scorers were, what the England team was?

Can anyone say or find out the answers to these 2 questions, perhaps Ronnie McDevitt or Ray Langstone, or anyone
else please.

Don't have the line ups but I can tell you the scorers. Chelsea's Barry Bridges and Wally Hazelden of Aston Villa got England's goals whilst Kovacevic scored twice for the visitors who led 1-0 at half time. So viewers were treated to three goals. Just two days before the Munich air crash of course.

[williammcgregor]

Thanks for the information about the scorers Ronnie (tragic to think what happened two days later!)

[williammcgregor]

Regarding the football again...I've got a few questions (Oh no I hear you cry!)

1) Do any forum members know if the FA hold a copy of the 1958 A-R transmission transmission above?

2) Does anybody think Chelsea FC hold a copy?

3) Or if the Yugoslavs received a copy as they took part in the Match?..

4) Finally, (thank god you say) how did all those other areas besides London, mentioned in the original post and also seen in Ronnie's post today in his reply, receive the game? if as Neil has said they didn't have the logistical capability to beam programmes direct from London to the rest of the UK..even Scottish Television showed this transmission...but how?

[williammcgregor]

Number 93 on the 1958 list...

Time Is The Enemy

This 7 episode series about time travel pre-dated Doctor Who (1963) by five years.

Was this in any way an inspiration for Doctor Who?

The then 23 year old star of Time Is The Enemy Clifford Elkin later appeared in Doctor Who Frontier Of Space 1973.

The imdb synopsis for Time Is The Enemy is
A man steps through his attic door in his new London home and ends up 150 years in the past (1808), where he is accused of being a French spy.
The Plot Summary on The Encyclopaedia of Fantastic Film and Television is
A man discovers a secret door in his attic that leads him back to Victorian London (1837-)where he stands accused of
espionage.
Both places agree that the cast was
Clifford Elkin - Jim Barnaby
Nigel Arkwright - Mr.Porter
Betty Huntley-Wright - Mrs Deveril
David Lander - August Bellini
Edward Rhodes - Sir Adrian Mayne
Anne Reid - Patience Mee (Anne later played Valerie Barlow - Ken's first wife in Coronation Street)
Derek Waring - Mr. Lancaster
Edward Higgins - Rollings
Ross Hutchinson - Colonel Deveril
Lilian Grassom - Anne Deveril (as Lilian Grasson)
Larry Taylor - Hodge (as Laurence Taylor)
Both places say that the writer was Sheilagh Ward...imdb has her with earlier credits as Sheilah Ward.
The Lost Shows entry is as follows..
18/3/58 The Sealed Door
25/3/58 The Way Back
1/4/58 The Diamond Necklace
8/4/58 The Silver Candlestick
15/4/58 The Hiding Place
22/4/58 The Missing Page
29/4/58 The Last Time

Does anyone know if this series was shown across the network, or just in the Associated-Rediffusion
London area only? Can anyone add any more information about this series please

[Ronnie McDevitt]

Jan 20, 2016 17:23:05 GMT williammcgregor said:

Regarding the football again...I've got a few questions (Oh no I hear you cry!)


4) Finally, (thank god you say) how did all those other areas besides London, mentioned in the original post and also seen in Ronnie's post today in his reply, receive the game? if as Neil has said they didn't have the logistical capability to beam programmes direct from London to the rest of the UK..even Scottish Television showed this transmission...but how?
Well they clearly could broadcast throughout the UK William as the second half was live on Scottish. And remember STV was still in its infancy and had been on the air for less than six months. Infact the opening show `This is Scotland' was live throughout the ITV network the previous August.

[williammcgregor]

Thanks for your reply Ronnie

[williammcgregor]

Number 90 on the 1958 list...

East End-West End

This was a comedy series of 6 episodes written by Wilf Mankowitz.
It had Sidney James in all 6 episodes, Miriam Karlin in 3 episodes, with Sidney Tafler and Penny Morrell appearing in the first episode and Alfie Bass appearing in a later episode.

Little is known about this series, so would other members like to see if they can come up with any more information
about this series please. Here is the lost shows entry..

www.lostshows.com/default.aspx?search=east+end


Number 94 on the 1958 list...

Hotel Imperial

This was a kind of comedy series which had Vic Oliver as Monsieur Victor. The following gives a very good review
of the format of this series..under the heading of Winston Churchill son-in-law meets Donald Pleasance
www.imdb.com/title/tt0270136/

also here is the lost shows entry..

www.lostshows.com/default.aspx?search=hotel+imperial


Number 95 on the 1958 list...

International Fashions

The listing for this reads..
As part of the annual convention of the Variety Clubs International, held this year in London, the ladies' committee
have arranged a fashion show in conjunction with the Incorporated Society of London Designers. Guests of honour
include Mrs John Hay Witney and Jack Hawkins. Also attending are Moira Lister, Barbara Kelly, Vera Lynn, Yvonne
Mitchell, Beryl Grey, Margot Fonteyn, Isobel Barnett and Heather Sears.
Commentator: Kenneth McLeod
Fashion adviser: Pamela Horton
Directed by: Alan Morris
Produced by: Stephen McCormack

Is it possible, that a copy of this is held by either Variety Clubs International or Incorporated Society of London
Designers?

[John Green]

Interesting about that series,William.Of course,the first thing I thought of was Dylan's:

Now somebody’s got to show their hand, time is an enemy
I know you’re long gone, I guess it must be up to me

(Up to Me).

There was another (BBC?) show from the late 50s or early 60s about a professor who stepped through a doorway into other times,I believe?

[williammcgregor]

Never heard of that Dylan song before John (are you a fan?)

Good luck in your search for the TV show about a professor etc.

I've tried searching the internet, to no avail yet.

[Neil Hendry]

Jan 22, 2016 14:51:14 GMT Ronnie McDevitt said:

Jan 20, 2016 17:23:05 GMT williammcgregor said:

Regarding the football again...I've got a few questions (Oh no I hear you cry!)


4) Finally, (thank god you say) how did all those other areas besides London, mentioned in the original post and also seen in Ronnie's post today in his reply, receive the game? if as Neil has said they didn't have the logistical capability to beam programmes direct from London to the rest of the UK..even Scottish Television showed this transmission...but how?
Well they clearly could broadcast throughout the UK William as the second half was live on Scottish. And remember STV was still in its infancy and had been on the air for less than six months. In fact the opening show `This is Scotland' was live throughout the ITV network the previous August.

I never said that! Interesting that it was broadcast on STV as well - there must have been network feed capabilities then in 1958. Good to know. ABC TV also had the capability to share transmissions with other networks - certainly by 1961 - which included Scottish TV.

[John Green]

East End-West End wasn't too great a success:

Associated Rediffusion had offered Sid a staring vehicle, playing alongside Miriam Karlin in the Wolf Mankowitz scripted series 'East End, West End'. In it Sid played the part of a Cockney, not far removed from his 'Hancock' character, who tried to make an honest(ish) living by ducking and diving, wheeling and dealing. The series was scheduled to run for a six-week series followed by a seven week break and then another series of thirteen episodes. The first series was to go out on the same night as the 'Hancock's Half Hour' radio series.

Tom Sloan, the BBC's Head of Light Entertainment, wrote to Sid concerned that the second series of 'East End, West End' might make the star unavailable for the next 'Hancock' series. But as it turned out, 'East End, West End' didn't go down too well with the viewing public and the second series was never made. However, determined not to let Sid go again, the BBC offered him a series of his own, to be broadcast between the next two series of the TV "Hancock" shows. Sid turned them down.

Taken from this site: www.televisionheaven.co.uk/sid_james_2.htm

They should have a hyphen,in the title,then,rather than a comma? IMDB have it with a comma,too.

IMDB have Miriam Karlin in episodes 1 and 3.Any advance on that? Her obituary states that she "starred alongside" Sid James in the show.Is it possible that she was in every episode? Elsewhere,the show is described as:
This comedienne's first major appearance was in 'East End - West End' on ITV in 1958.

Which sounds a bit much for two or three appearances.

[williammcgregor]

Thanks to Neil and John for the latest information above.

Apologies to Neil for misquoting him.

[williammcgregor]

Number 100 on the 1958 list...

Who Knows?

I have the 08/07/58.....12/08/58 and 19/08/58 on my TV Times dvd all with the same information as below.

7pm to 7:30pm

Chairman and programme editor, Neville Barker puts questions based on the best shots of 60 years of newsreels to teams from youth clubs all over the country. The winning team will receive £50 for it's club. Each week the teenagers question a guest celebrity.

Produced by: Ray Dicks
Directed by: Graham Watts

The picture below is Chairman Neville Barker

[williammcgregor]

Number 101 on the 1958 list...

I've Got a Secret

7:30pm to 8pm

I've got the 09/07/58...13/08/58 and the 20/08/58 on my TV Times dvd both have the same panel.

The popular tv game in which contestants try to stump the panel with their unusual and amusing secrets

The Panel...Eunice Gayson...Sara Leighton...Sid James...Jon Pertwee....and a guest panelist

Chairman: Digby Wolfe
Directed by: Tig Roe
A Maurice Winnick Production for A/R Television
By arrangement with Mark Goodson & Bill Todman