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Post by Richard Marple on Jan 10, 2016 10:11:04 GMT
Thanks for that information John. Probably John Lennon remembered (Life With The Lyons) from the radio? Good on Graeme Stevenson for keeping 200 radio episodes. Yes I believe Unfinished Music No.2 was deliberately named after this show.
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Post by williammcgregor on Jan 10, 2016 10:29:38 GMT
It definitely was a tribute to the show Richard. I'll do my best to try and find something in print by John.
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Post by williammcgregor on Jan 10, 2016 10:32:25 GMT
Meantime back to the 1957 list...
These are at the BFI...
1. Giuseppino of Santa Margherita (Italy) from series Children Of Other Lands 1957 Associated-Rediffusion 16 mm Combined 458 Feet
2. Street Traders from series Members Mail 1957-03-27 Associated-Rediffusion An examination of the pros and cons of further controls on street traders, with Victor Collins M.P. for Shoreditch and Finsbury and a number of traders from Shoreditch, London. 16 mm BW Positive Acetate Combined 533 Feet. 16 mm Negative Acetate Combined 533 Feet.
3. Portrait of a School 1957-05-08 Associated-Rediffusion Documentary on a "typical" London secondary modern school. 35 mm BW Positive Polyester Combined 2070 Feet. 35 mm Re-recorded Negative Polyester Sound 2099 Feet. Digital Betacam Video.
4. America Now 1957-08-27 Associated-Rediffusion Documentary Michael Ingrams visits American families in Georgia, Los Angeles, the Midwest and New York. 35 mm Magnetic recording Sound 5350 Feet.
5. Green-eyed Monster from series LIFE WITH THE LYONS 1957-09-17 Associated-Rediffusion Genre: sitcom Cast: Jack Buchanan, Molly Weir, Ben Lyon, Bebe Daniels, Barbara Lyon, Richard Lyon 16 mm BW Positive CTA Combined 958 Feet.
6. Going, Going, Gone from series LIFE WITH THE LYONS 1957-11-12 Associated-Rediffusion Genre: sitcom Cast: Molly Weir, Doris Rogers, Hugh Morton, Rex Rashley, Benn Simons, Ben Lyon, Bebe Daniels, Barbara Lyon, Richard Lyon. 16 mm BW Positive CTA Combined 961 Feet.
7. The Crazy Gang's Party 1957-12-23 Associated-Rediffusion Guests: Arthur Askey, Donald Campbell, Peter Glaze, Alfred Marks, JACK SOLOMONS. 35 mm Magnetic recording Sound 2281 Feet. 1-inch C-Format 24.19 minutes, VHS 24.19 minutes.
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Post by John Green on Jan 10, 2016 17:25:53 GMT
Thanks for that information John. Probably John Lennon remembered (Life With The Lyons) from the radio? Good on Graeme Stevenson for keeping 200 radio episodes. Al Stewart made it so much clearer: In his song "Post World War Two Blues" (Past, Present & Future, 1973), Al Stewart sang, "We were locked up safe and warm from the snow / With 'Life with the Lyons' on the radio ...". (Wikipedia). Keep up the good work,William!
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Post by williammcgregor on Jan 10, 2016 21:00:19 GMT
Thanks John
I did'nt know that Al Stewart mentioned 'Life with the Lyons' in a song. That's what's great about this forum at it's best it is so informative.
So thank you for that information. I wonder if any other old TV or radio shows have been mentioned in a pop or rock song?
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Post by richardwoods on Jan 10, 2016 21:20:12 GMT
Wasn't the Onedin Line mentioned in Know What I Mean by Oasis? Or was a having a non Memorex moment, LOL
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Post by Richard Marple on Jan 10, 2016 22:40:43 GMT
Dallas is mentioned in Abba's The Day Before You Came.
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Post by Pam Rostron on Jan 11, 2016 10:51:57 GMT
Number 84 People Like Us was created especially for Reg Dixon and Sally Barnes after their success in his summer show Jump for Joy. It was scripted by Talbot and Rothwell, but by the final episode any attempt at a story was abandoned and it became an excuse for another poor variety show. It was an absolute disaster,which is a shame as Sally Barnes was a really talented performer, and could have been a huge star if handled properly. Do you mean Talbot Rothwell & Sid Colin? Oops, I split Talbot Rothwell in half instead of saying Rothwell and Colin. I've corrected my original post. People Like Us wasn't recorded, but Jump For Joy is in the BFI National Archive. It's quite good fun as an example of what I assume would be a typical summer show, and Sally Barnes really was very talented so it's a shame she was never given suitable vehicles to prove that on TV. Hylton really didn't understand the importance of good scripts, and it's around this time that he started looking to the USA and bought (secretly) the scripts to Sid Caesar's Show of Shows.
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Post by williammcgregor on Jan 13, 2016 13:16:19 GMT
We've now reached 1958
90. East End-West End 25 minutes 4/2-11/3/58 6 episodes Sid James Miriam Karlin Sydney Tafler Penny Morrell 91. International Football Stamford Bridge 4/2/58 England v Yugoslavia Under 18's Kent Walton Peter Lloyd 92. See You,Soho 13/3/58 Buddy Holly and The Crickets, Chas McDevitt, Max Miller JHP TV for A-R 93. Time Is The Enemy 25 minutes 18/3-29/4/58 7 episodes Clifford Elkin, Derek Waring, Anne Reid. 94. Hotel Imperial Series 1 25 minutes 18/3-27/5/58 11episodes Brian Oulton, June Laverick, Donald Pleasence. 95. International Fashions 23/4/58 45 minutes Guests: J Hawkins, M Lister B Kelly V Lynn Y Mitchell M Fonteyn. 96. Lucky Dip: Guitar Corner 13/5/58 Bert Weedon 97. On With The Show 52 minutes 5/6-14/8/58 6 episodes J Whitfield, Alan White, H Fowler JHP TV for A-R 98. Free And Easy 25 minutes 10/6-14/7/58 6 episodes Dickie Valentine, Petula Clark, Pat. Rowlands. 99. My Wife And I 25 minutes 30/6-10/9/58 11 episodes Mai Zetterling, Rex Garner, Joan Benham. 100 Who Knows? 8/7 & 19/8 episodes? Neville Barker contest between youth clubs 60 years of newsreels. 101 I've Got A Secret 9/7 & 20/8 episodes? Pop tv Panel: S James, Eunice Gayson, Sara Leighton Jon Pertwee. 102 Herlock And Sholmes 15 minutes 11/7-3/10/58 13 episodes Jack Edwardes, Dickie Arnold. 103 Dead Trouble 25 minutes 15/7-26/8/58 7 episodes Donald Hewlett Christine Pollon 5/8 Marty Feldman. 104 Alan Young 45 minutes 28/8-6/11/58 6 episodes Eleanor Drew, Laurie Payne JHP TV for A-R 105 As I Die 50 minutes 2/9/58 David Oxley, Eric Lander, Ellen Pollock, Ralph Michael, Wendy Williams. 106 Rush Hour 25 minutes 15/9-22/12/58 Laurie Payne, Una Stubbs, Barbara Ferris, Steve Race. 107 Educating Archie Series 1 25 minutes 26/9- 13 episodes P Brough I Handl D Emery writer Marty Feldman 108 Eight Minute Variety 16/10/58 Kent Walton Judy Layne Paul Andrews The Champions 109 The Chinese Dagger 25 minutes 11/11-16/12/58 6 episodes Suzan Farmer Mona Bruce Paul Streather. 110 Having A Wonderful Time 26/12/58 The Vipers Skiffle Group Don Lang
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Post by williammcgregor on Jan 17, 2016 19:29:44 GMT
Number 92 on the 1958 list... See You, SohoNB: Buddy Holly And The Crickets appearance on Jack Hyltons' See You, Soho didn't happen..
it was dropped at the 11th hour when their fee could not be agreed.per information from this excellent website www.davemcaleer.com/page29.htm
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Post by Pam Rostron on Jan 18, 2016 10:55:03 GMT
Number 92 on the 1958 list... See You, SohoNB: Buddy Holly And The Crickets appearance on Jack Hyltons' See You, Soho didn't happen..
it was dropped at the 11th hour when their fee could not be agreed.per information from this excellent website www.davemcaleer.com/page29.htm It was alledged in The Daily Mirror of 13 March 1958 that Hylton had claimed they were under exclusive contract to him for ITV, and that a 20 second interview on Cool For Cats in February had invalidated this. Internal Hylton organisation memos suggest that the band "were of insufficient quality", so the negative critical reaction to their appearance on Sunday Night at the London Palladium may have meant Hylton could use the contractual business as an excuse to drop them.
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Post by Alan Turrell on Jan 18, 2016 11:59:36 GMT
Number 92 on the 1958 list... See You, SohoNB: Buddy Holly And The Crickets appearance on Jack Hyltons' See You, Soho didn't happen..
it was dropped at the 11th hour when their fee could not be agreed.per information from this excellent website www.davemcaleer.com/page29.htm It was alledged in The Daily Mirror of 13 March 1958 that Hylton had claimed they were under exclusive contract to him for ITV, and that a 20 second interview on Cool For Cats in February had invalidated this. Internal Hylton organisation memos suggest that the band "were of insufficient quality", so the negative critical reaction to their appearance on Sunday Night at the London Palladium may have meant Hylton could use the contractual business as an excuse to drop them. If true Pam what an error of judgement that turned out to be.
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Post by williammcgregor on Jan 18, 2016 15:06:31 GMT
Thanks for this information Pam, as Alan says "What an error of judgement"
Do you think it is worth me trying to access the Daily Mirror for the 13th March 1958 to view the article you talk about?
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Post by williammcgregor on Jan 19, 2016 9:50:39 GMT
Number 91 on the 1958 list... International Football from Stamford Bridge England v Yugoslavia Under 18's this excellent site tells us the following.. englandfootballonline.com/TeamMedia/TV1955-60.htm Tuesday 4 February 1958 - Youth Stamford Bridge, Fulham (second-half only) England 2 Yugoslavia 2 -ITV -8 pm - 9 pm ATV (Midland) Granada (Northern) Rediffusion (London) and Scottish Television commentator Peter Lloyd (South Wales and West of England opted out). as good as this site is, it doesn't tell us who the scorers were, what the England team was? Can anyone say or find out the answers to these 2 questions, perhaps Ronnie McDevitt or Ray Langstone, or anyone else please. This match took place at the home of Chelsea FC, at the time, they had a seventeen year old playing in the first team, scoring well, by the name of Jimmy Greaves...Jimmy was 18 on 20 February 1958, so he would have been eligible to play in this International, but did he play and did he score?...another question that needs an answer please. The accompanying article from Page 15 of that weeks TV Times suggests some of the names who may be playing tonight, based on previous team selections, how many of these names played? Jimmy is not one of them. The TV Times listing for 8 pm 4 February 1958 says that... 'During interval John Graydon talks to a well-known football personality. Commentators Kent Walton and Peter Lloyd.' Does anyone know or can they find out who this 'well-known football personality' was? Lastly can anyone confirm this A-R transmission is definitely Missing or is it held by the English FA or some other body.
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Post by Pam Rostron on Jan 19, 2016 10:34:28 GMT
Thanks for this information Pam, as Alan says "What an error of judgement" Do you think it is worth me trying to access the Daily Mirror for the 13th March 1958 to view the article you talk about? I don't think Hylton was much impressed by this new fangled music. If you're interested, yes, you could find the article to read it. I think it is just a small piece. The papers of the time were quite useful for finding out about billing changes. With the programmes all being done live, there was usually an explanation in the press, either before or after, for any changes in casts. Eg, George Formby was billed for one edition of Music Box (1.3.57) but it's George Raft who actually tops the bill because Formby was ill. This was given quite a lot of publicity at the time.
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