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Post by Jeff Leach on Oct 16, 2014 10:24:40 GMT
The Radio Times digitisation project should be live now enabling us to check most of the BBC programmes screened since 1923 genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/
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Post by Chris Barratt on Oct 16, 2014 10:53:58 GMT
Yes, had a quick look - what an excellent tool. Shame about the silly disclaimer but then again we are Through The Looking Glass!
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Post by Marie Griffiths on Oct 16, 2014 11:38:14 GMT
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Post by Marie Griffiths on Oct 16, 2014 11:41:55 GMT
"The BBC has about 30% of the programmes listed in Genome in its physical archives, which amounts to more than a million hours of output." Is this acknowledging they have lost the lions share of material?
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Post by Marie Griffiths on Oct 16, 2014 11:49:14 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2014 11:58:34 GMT
Yes, it was on BBC-1. October 1969.
As Chris says, it's a great research tool. I'm pleased that the publicity highlights the idea of hopefully finding missing material by this means. Let's hope recordings are indeed unearthed!
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Post by Stephen Byers on Oct 16, 2014 13:53:58 GMT
The following news may be of particular interest to members of this site. www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-29643662and the database of programmes even more so: genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/During a quick foray I found interesting stuff about mummers going back to the 1920s. Plenty on morris dancing too. The fact that you cannot special phrases in quotes and the search program's automatic fiddling around with word endings means the precision is not what you might wish for. "Mumming" for instance also finds "Mum", which swamps the results. I suspect the BBC's server is already getting overloaded. SB
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Post by Charles Daniels on Oct 16, 2014 15:53:29 GMT
I'm a bit confused by the rather optimistic idea that the Genome will lead to people returning material.
If there's no information clearly visible as to what's missing, surely most people will assume that if it has an entry, it must be sitting in some archive somewhere?
And even if they do later on include highlighting for missing material - what's their target audience for the service?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2014 16:03:47 GMT
(Threads merged as one had been already started).
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Post by Barry Hodge on Oct 16, 2014 16:53:06 GMT
Hooray! I've researched at various times for the Suttonelms website, and this is going to make things SO much easier...!
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Post by Marie Griffiths on Oct 16, 2014 17:31:54 GMT
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Post by Dan S on Oct 16, 2014 18:17:36 GMT
I'm a bit confused by the rather optimistic idea that the Genome will lead to people returning material. If there's no information clearly visible as to what's missing, surely most people will assume that if it has an entry, it must be sitting in some archive somewhere? I notice the linked news story ends with the words "The next step is to cross reference the Genome Project with the corporation's other records." If they cross-reference it with INFAX we'd be able to see which things exist in full, or as extracts, audio only, etc. Then the next step would be to have the ability to leave a comment on the page (viewable to BBC admin only) where you could say if you had something, and you'd leave a description detailing what you had. Then it's up to them whether they contact you and ask for a copy. I think this would be a better way of doing it rather than people offering the BBC stuff, since they've been known to not accept everything they've been offered.
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Post by John Green on Oct 16, 2014 18:20:54 GMT
Yeah,sorry about that Marie,I've been so busy that I didn't realise that a thread had already been started on the topic.The post you quote has been deleted.
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Post by christian bews on Oct 16, 2014 18:51:56 GMT
just been on there for the first time looking at what else was on the 23rd November 1963 apart from the historic first episode of 'dr who' & looking at the billings for the BBC's first night time service 'BBC select' shown in a scrambled format as you need a special box to view it in 1993. I just added this site on my favorites bar.
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Post by Stephen Byers on Oct 16, 2014 19:04:38 GMT
I started my thread in Radio (my forte) beating Mr. Leach's thread in TV by some minutes. I wanted to use my Radio thread to report on searches for Radio programmes. However all threads have now been merged into TV.
Whatever - I have just done some test searches on Radio programmes - mainly from the BBC Home Service (Midlands).
Two issues arise:
1/ The programmes I searched for - dating from the early 1960s - were not listed. Luckily we have copies of these - offered to the Beeb who refused them - so they may be issued on CD once copyright and legal hurdles have been cleared.
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2/ At least one programme that was listed looked eminently interesting - actually from 1938 - but is obviously forgotten and lost because it is not even listed in Wiki (not that that means much).
This all makes me rather sad - in that many of the programmes - even those aired recently - are simply not available even if they do exist in the Beeb's Archives.
Of course those that are lost will never be heard again. Yet those in the Archives are also never likely to heard again.
So actually what is the point of the Genome project?
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